A.D. Riddle Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Instant details parses πλήρης as adj fem sing nom. Seems to me like this should be masculine, not feminine (they have the same form). If it is feminine, would it be modifying σάρξ? A.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Jenney Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) I'm looking at Instant Details for NA28. It parses it twice, once as masc, once as fem. Marcos' syntax of the GNT shows it qualifying δόξα, which is also feminine. I agree. Just also checked Koivisto's Diagrams of the GNT. He concurs. See more complete post below. Edited March 19, 2018 by Timothy Jenney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.D. Riddle Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Thanks. I have neither of those resources--on the long list of things I hope to get some day. So the "glory" is full of grace and truth? δόξαν is genitive, so πλήρης has not declined to match the case. Not a problem apparently since Mounce, Morphology says, "πλήρης is sometimes indeclinable, normally when it would be in the genitive" (235 fn. 5). CORRECTION: δόξαν is accusative. So there is case disagreement between it and πλήρης. Checked a few translations, and they seem to take πλήρης as modifying πατρός or μονογενοῦς, perhaps ὁ λόγος. If they are right, then we would have to analyze πλήρης as masc. A.D. Edited March 19, 2018 by A.D. Riddle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Isn't δόξαν accusative here ? The article would suggest so. MBG shows it as such. thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Jenney Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Here's a screenshot showing both resources. When I scrolled over on the Greek diagrams and looked at them more closely, I noticed Rex Koivisto actually has three(!) alternatives. The first modifies λόγος, the second modifies δόξα, the third modifies μονογενής. Edited March 19, 2018 by Timothy Jenney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I haven't got the syntax charts on my phone but I wonder how Marco modelled it. ThxD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Jenney Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Here's a bit cleaner picture of Marco's syntax tree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Thx. Gonna have to look more at this one. Little surprised by the handling of "para patros". Thx D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.D. Riddle Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 Well, at least Koivisto confirms there are different ways to take this. I do not think δόξαν would be my first (or second) choice as the term being qualified by πλήρης. A.D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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