Jonathan C. Borland Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 I'd like to request as a module the newest, and perhaps final, edition of the Byzantine Text edited by Maurice Robinson: The New Testament in the Original Greek: Byzantine Textform 2018. Ed. Maurice Robinson & William Pierpont. Nürnberg, VTR, 2018. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 I didn’t even realize this was out. I keep a shelf at home for different print copies of the Greek NT. I could only find a paperback on Amazon but went ahead and ordered it for myself; too bad there’s not a hardback as with the last edition. I’ll be interested to see the differences between the 2005 and 2018 editions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I'd like to request as a module the newest, and perhaps final, edition of the Byzantine Text edited by Maurice Robinson: The New Testament in the Original Greek: Byzantine Textform 2018. Ed. Maurice Robinson & William Pierpont. Nürnberg, VTR, 2018. Jonathan, have you looked at an actual copy yet? After your post, I ordered one from Amazon, which arrived today. Really, I can’t tell that there’s any difference from the 2005 edition as far as the text of the R-P Greek New Testament. As I mentioned earlier, I noticed when I ordered it that it was only available in paperback. In the Preface, it states, "The present edition fulfills a desired goal to provide an affordable Greek New Testament in flexible binding that will be useful for both students and scholars of the Greek New Testament.” That makes me wonder if there are any actual differences in the text itself. There may be a few changes in the apparatus since it accounts for differences in both the 27th & 28th editions of the Nestle-Aland text; and, of course, the 28th edition is more recent than the R-P 2005 edition. Anyway, if you’ve seen one of these and know how it’s different from the 2005 edition, please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffdod Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Jonathan, have you looked at an actual copy yet? After your post, I ordered one from Amazon, which arrived today. Really, I can’t tell that there’s any difference from the 2005 edition as far as the text of the R-P Greek New Testament. As I mentioned earlier, I noticed when I ordered it that it was only available in paperback. In the Preface, it states, "The present edition fulfills a desired goal to provide an affordable Greek New Testament in flexible binding that will be useful for both students and scholars of the Greek New Testament.” That makes me wonder if there are any actual differences in the text itself. There may be a few changes in the apparatus since it accounts for differences in both the 27th & 28th editions of the Nestle-Aland text; and, of course, the 28th edition is more recent than the R-P 2005 edition. Anyway, if you’ve seen one of these and know how it’s different from the 2005 edition, please let me know. Hello Rick, Here's a summary of the changes between the 2005 and 2018 Robinson-Pierpont Byzantine edition: There are three wording changes: John 18.11: the word "sou" is moved from the main text to the apparatus as a Byzantine variant. This also changes the accenting of the prior word. John 18.32: the word "emellen" becomes the main text reading, moving "hmellen" to the apparatus as a Byzantine variant. This moves RP2018 away from NA27/28 at this point. Rev 2.17: the word "fagein" is removed from the main text, so that the main text now reads "tou" with a Byzantine variant of "fagein apo tou". Also, in 1Cor 7.5, 2Cor 1.17, 2Cor 12.18, and 2Cor 13.5, "mh ti" is changed to "mhti". The bulk of the changes are accenting corrections, along with some capitalization and punctuation changes. As you mentioned, the variants in RP2018 now cover the NA28 edition. Notably, you will also see that in the book of Acts, the variant apparatus covers the recent release of the ECM for Acts. The layout of the footnotes is entirely different, with Byzantine variants occupying their own footnote apparatus instead of residing in the margins, and there are now English section headings throughout the text. Hopefully, we will have the "Look Inside" feature activated soon on Amazon so that readers can see this for themselves before purchasing! I hope this summary helps. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I hope this summary helps. Jeff, thanks so much. That definitely helps. And you would be the one to know as I see your name inside the cover as being responsible for the layout (very nice work!). I am going to email you directly with a couple of questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattChristianOT Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Any update on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Pardon me for failing to update this post. After further correspondence with Jeff, we learned that Dr. Robinson’s agreement with the publisher includes only making physical/print copies available for the first year. So I believe that means that we would not be able to make an Accordance edition available until early 2019. However, we are eager to make the updated text available in Accordance as soon as we are allowed to do so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansK Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 However, we are eager to make the updated text available in Accordance as soon as we are allowed to do so. Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattChristianOT Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Pardon me for failing to update this post. After further correspondence with Jeff, we learned that Dr. Robinson’s agreement with the publisher includes only making physical/print copies available for the first year. So I believe that means that we would not be able to make an Accordance edition available until early 2019. However, we are eager to make the updated text available in Accordance as soon as we are allowed to do so. I figured he would be fine with it. He sold hard copies at cost, making no profit for himself. I am glad to be at the same institution as him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot Taylor Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) I would love to have this newest 2018 edition in hardcover! Thanks for informative the posts. Edited February 11, 2019 by Elliot Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattChristianOT Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I would love to have this newest 2018 edition in hardcover! Thanks for informative the posts. I would recommend sending Dr Robinson an email. He keeps a box in his office if I am not mistaken. A copy of one of the other editions set me back $10.00 cash which was only to cover the publisher cost and print cost. Dr Robinson took no profit to himself. Not sure what he does with the newer editions but it is worth reaching out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Thomas Sandberg Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I’ll look back into this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1029384756 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Any update on this? If I purchase the GNT-BYZ now, will I get a free upgrade to the 2018 version when it becomes available? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Any update on this? If I purchase the GNT-BYZ now, will I get a free upgrade to the 2018 version when it becomes available? yes please. And the German translation from Thomas!!! And with the siglas, so a hover over show the notes in instant Details!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Any update on this? If I purchase the GNT-BYZ now, will I get a free upgrade to the 2018 version when it becomes available? I will get back in touch with Jeff and see where things stand in regard to obtaining the files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1029384756 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Thanks, R. Mansfield! FWIW, there's a PDF of the 2018 Robinson/Pierpont Byzantine edition available online here: https://bibletranslation.ws/down/Robinson_Pierpont_GNT.pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassey Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 On 11/20/2020 at 5:06 PM, R. Mansfield said: I will get back in touch with Jeff and see where things stand in regard to obtaining the files. I don't know if they are the files you mean but the source OLB files with Strongs and morphology are at https://github.com/byztxt/byzantine-majority-text including updates since 2018 @Mark Allison Maybe the SRS GNT could be part of the same module when this is updated? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandennison Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Any updates? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian K. Mitchell Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I am curious about this, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Patterson Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 +1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Hello Bring the '18 update to https://accordancebible.com/product/gnt-robinson-byzantine/ and add the product ID. For years has gone for this little update and it is still not done. Fabian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Cobb Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Fabian said: Hello Bring the '18 update to https://accordancebible.com/product/gnt-robinson-byzantine/ and add the product ID. For years has gone for this little update and it is still not done. Fabian I was under the impression that the specificity of the majority text was that it didn't change. Doesn't that make updates unnecessary? 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassey Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Donald Cobb said: I was under the impression that the specificity of the majority text was that it didn't change. Doesn't that make updates unnecessary? 😄 I think you are thinking of the TR 😉 I've quickly looked at some of the updates on the github page and what I've seen is changes in accents and updates to N/A variants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Cobb Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, glassey said: I think you are thinking of the TR 😉 I've quickly looked at some of the updates on the github page and what I've seen is changes in accents and updates to N/A variants. It was more a moment of levity than anything else. Having said that, the majority text is considered particularly stable Edited April 23, 2022 by Donald Cobb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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