Harvey Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) I have been unsuccessful creating a search, either in a text window or using a construct, to locate sequences of three letters, in a single word, vocalized with the vowel sequence qamatz, qamatz, sheva. (Pardon my Modern Hebrew pronunciation of these terms!) My goal is to find whether that sequence, which occurs in the words תָּעָבְדֵם and נָעָבְדֵם, occurs anywhere else. (I suspect that it does not.) Can someone help? Edited May 3, 2018 by Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Does something like "=*?ָ?ָ?ְ*" help ? ok that pasted backwards. Here's a screen shot : thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bekins Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I couldn't figure out how to do it in Accordance, but I was interested enough to use regular expressions with my personal copy of the morphological database. I actually had 300 hits. Besides תָעָבְדֵם and נָעָבְדֵם , I get the name יָרָבְעָם (many times), and a bunch of perfect verbs in pause like אָכָלְתָּ (Gen 3:11, etc.). I can send you a list of verses if you would like. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Jenney Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Daniel's search (See the screenshot.), which I believe meets your criteria, yields 309 hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bekins Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Daniel's search (See the screenshot.), which I believe meets your criteria, yields 309 hits. Ahh, I didn't type the quotes when I did the search so it didn't work. I thought they were marking the bounds of the search term, not part of the search term itself. Is there a cheat sheet someplace for what all the characters mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Hey Pete, The "= combination (they can be used separately) means to search for this inflected form exactly, the ? means any single char. the vowels are those Harvey specified. The * means 0 or more characters. There is an explanation of the chars in the doc. Look for Hebrew Literal searches or something like that. I'm not at my desktop to get you the exact link right now. Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Jenney Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 This Accordance podcast on Basic Hebrew Searches will help: http://www.accordancefiles2.com/podcasts/p147_basichebrewsearches.mp4 The double quotes tell Accordance you are searching for a character string. The enclosed equals sign orders it to match the vowel pointing (also final characters, capitalization, accents, and and breathing marks [when the language of the text has such things]). Alternately, just choose Select Inflected Forms from the Search Menu or type Cmd+Shift+J (Mac) Ctrl-Shift-J (PC). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 In such cases the Help Files are a help See here + open the 3 titles. Greetings Fabian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 I tried Daniel's search, but even though I select "Letters," the search switches to "Words" and brings up a "Select Lexical Form" window. Any idea what I am doing wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 It will switch from Letters to Words and that's ok. The search must be entered in quotes. Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 OK; but the problem is that it brings up the "Select Lexical Form" window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Hey Harvey, I'm not sure why that is happening. I am not seeing it. I remember having some initial difficulties where it did pop up but I can no longer recall how that happened. Ok so I've attached a workspace here with the query in it. Hopefully you should just be able to unzip it and load up the workspace and it should run. Hopefully that will help you figure out what is going on. In case it helps, I use a Hebrew Polytonic keyboard not the built in Accordance mapping - I use the SIL Hebrew keyboard. I enter the " and equals and * using the English mapping and switch to the SIL keyboard for the ? and points. That said I assume that the "Select Lexical Form" window is popping up when you hit enter so I'm not if that matters. Thx D HarveyQamQamShewa.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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