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Posted 05 June 2018 - 11:56 AM

So, my suggestion is, consider making the Advanced add-on package available for BW users who have already purchased most or all of the modules in the Basic package. Add grace upon grace.

 

Michel, just contact sales. I can’t promise you anything (I don’t work in sales), but I know they will do their best to work with you in any way they can.


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 12:31 PM

Most BW users also need a way to import their notes. Logos is already working on this. See https://community.lo...913/981201.aspx


  


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 12:33 PM

Most BW users also need a way to import their notes.

 

We’re looking into that, too. Nothing to announce yet, though.


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 12:34 PM

Yes such a feature is missing and I requested it before. 

 

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ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 12:43 PM

Perhaps Acc could also sell it as a separate module for those who don’t qualify for the Basic or Add-on packages.


  


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 01:03 PM

Hi Rick,

I think it might be hard to convince Acc, but I’ll add another perspective.


That is exactly my situation. I have made several Acc purchases, but honestly, they were for the Syntax searches. I bought the Essentials Collection to have a commentary set to attach notes to. Then Acc made the Stuttgart package available. Wonderful. But for me to cross over fully, I would need the Advanced add-on for BW version 10. Why? Simply the overall cost. So, while I would like to make Acc my primary program, without qualifying for the Advanced add-on, I know it will takes me years to replace the programs in that package at regular prices, or even at 20% off. If I would qualify for it, it would help me make Acc my main program, and I would just use BW for the user lexicon and rapid reading, i.e., as my secondary program.

So, my suggestion is, consider making the Advanced add-on package available for BW users who have already purchased most or all of the modules in the Basic package. Add grace upon grace.

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The crossover is a bargain. Otherwise I need a refund for what I had payed for all this modules. Most BW users had used their software to earn money. So this is depreciated like a company car or whatever after some years. The investment wasn’t so enormous in BW as they all Tell now. In the other hand I and my money doesn’t belong to me. I’m only a steward who has invest for the Kingdom.
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Posted 05 June 2018 - 01:19 PM

Like I said, it might be hard to convince Acc, and I know others. But you could use your arguments against offering the packages to first time buyers also. I'm content to stay with BW10. The only way I will cross over quickly is with the same offer. And there is the added benefit that I would use it more and promote it more. I don't really know the ins and outs of the program because I don't use it that much. I do Syntax searches and write some notes. But either way, either qualifying for the Add-on package or migrating slowly over the next decade, I will purchase Acc modules as I am able.


  


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 05:26 PM

But you could use your arguments against offering the packages to first time buyers also.

 

Yes you are correct and it was on my mind.

 

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 12:29 PM

Hi Fabian,

Stewardship is the main issue for me. It only became an issue when I learned from the OP that BW is ceasing commercial operations (I always turn off notifications for all of my programs/apps; I learned of it here).

I already owned the majority of the BW modules in paper. Then I bought them in Logos. Then, I migrated to BW away from Logos (all of this as a Windows user). Now I'm worried that BW10 might not work in a VM in a decade. If I was convinced that it would work, I wouldn't even consider migrating to another platform again, this time to Acc.

I wasn't even asking for myself at the beginning. Don's input started me thinking about a parallel between first time buyers and those who bought Acc for a certain module, function, or workflow, but who otherwise spend the vast majority of their time in BW. In my case, I spend 2-8 hours/day in BW, and 10 minutes a day in Acc (on average, over the last three years).

I also think it will be mutually beneficial for those who are allowed to take advantage of the crossover package. I do find that the more I use Acc, the more I see how excellent it is. On the other hand, BW users will be losing some valued modules and functions - in my case, if BW eventually stops working, my user lexicon, the unpointed HB with the same functionality as the pointed one, and rapid reading capabilities that I worked out on my own, partly in response to Acc unanchoring instant details from its word on the iPad. So, a complete crossover is not all good. We BW users will have to accept loss also.

I also hope you know how much I appreciate your help on the Forums in general.

Regards,

Michel

 

Edit: - mutually beneficial because as we learn the strengths of the program, we will promote it, i.e., promote what we know. Also, we will buy other Acc modules.


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 12:43 PM

I got the expected answer from the sales department. I find them particularly rigid when it comes to crossovers - just what's already on the website, what I already know.

 

Edit: I am disappointed that the cost of things prevents me from experiencing the program like the majority do, and that prevents me from being a full fledged member of this community. But, at least you got to see one BW user's perspective.


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 02:28 PM

Please don't respond to my last post. I may have to revise some of it.


  


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 04:45 PM

Yes, I have to apologize. Acc Sales are much more flexible than inflexible.

 

Thanks to Jimmie for her grace and understanding.


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:09 AM

Accordance really is a gracious company. Thank you.


  


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:22 AM

And the Forum members are gracious as well. Thank you.


  


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 06:32 AM

Yes, I have to apologize. Acc Sales are much more flexible than inflexible.
 
Thanks to Jimmie for her grace and understanding.


Jimmie is awesome. I fully agree.
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Posted 09 June 2018 - 07:05 AM

Suprised that the CNTTS apparatus is not part of crossover.  That is one of my main resources in BW that I have used for years. It would be nice if it were part of the crossover because it comes with BW10 at least.

 

Oh well, I am sure there are some modules in Accordance that weren't in BW but I love the CNTTS.


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Posted 09 June 2018 - 07:20 AM

Suprised that the CNTTS apparatus is not part of crossover.  That is one of my main resources in BW that I have used for years. It would be nice if it were part of the crossover because it comes with BW10 at least.

 

Oh well, I am sure there are some modules in Accordance that weren't in BW but I love the CNTTS.

 

Hello Billman,

 

Yes, CNTTS is one of the (many) great features that came standard with BW9 & 10. Unfortunately it's not included in the Crossover packages. But BW users can get a discount on it in Crossgrades. Take a look here (toward the bottom of the page).

 

And I do have to reiterate what Michel said: the sales department is very friendly and tries hard to make those who want to jump over to Accordance as easy an experience as possible.

 

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 07:58 AM

I spoke with Jimmie about this before the crossover packages were available. The crossover price of $25 is for owners of version 2. BW is version 1, so you can still get a good deal, around $59 for the CNTTS if you own it in BW, but not the $25 price. If the situation has changed, then let me know as I do not want to misinform.



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Posted 09 June 2018 - 10:53 AM

I spoke with Jimmie about this before the crossover packages were available. The crossover price of $25 is for owners of version 2. BW is version 1, so you can still get a good deal, around $59 for the CNTTS if you own it in BW, but not the $25 price. If the situation has changed, then let me know as I do not want to misinform.

 

Hello John,

 

I believe there is a difference between the CNTTS apparatus in BW9 and BW10. If I'm not mistaken, BW9 has version 1 (© 2004). According to the introductory matter, BW10 is updated until 2013. So I'm not sure that it's the most recent version, but it is at least the second edition--which, if I recall correctly, was announced as such when BW10 was released.

 

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