Λύχνις Δαν Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Hi ya, This is very likely a simple thing peculiar to the original work and nothing to do with Acc per se. But I am trying to track down a reference. The “red” snake or dragon depicted on the Ishtar Gate at Babylon may be a constellation, just as Tiamat, the stormy abyss symbolized by a dragon, seems to summon constellations (Viper, Dragon, Great-Lion, Scorpion Man, etc.; see Ancient Near Eastern Texts, 62) to assist in the battle against Marduk, the creator-God.John J. Pilch, A Cultural Handbook to the Bible, Accordance electronic ed. (Grand Rapids: William B. Eerdmans, 2012), 51.https://accordance.bible/link/read/Pilch-Cultural_Handbook#397 Am I right is guessing this in the above, "see Ancient Near Eastern Texts, 62", is a reference to "Ancient Near Eastern texts relating to the Old Testament. Edited by James B. Pritchard" ? "Ancient Near Eastern Texts" is referred in multiple places in the Cultural Handbook but no full reference is given that I can find. There is a reference to "Ancient Near Eastern Texts Illustrating the Old Testament 96b" which is not quite Pritchard's title but I'm guessing is the same work. And in the list of Other Works there are two refs under "Ancient Near Eastern Texts" though I don't know if they are ids of some kind or page numbers. Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Pretty sure that some version of Pritchard's ANET is intended here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Thanx Alistair - put in a loan request for it. Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I can confirm the reference is to Pritchard, which I have a copy of and looked up the reference to make certain. It’s unfortunate that Pilch does not seem to provide adequate bibliographical information in regard to this source. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Thanx Rick. Hopefully it's a simple oversight with a well known work and not a pattern. I've otherwise been pleased with the resource so far and hope to use it more as I go on. I did think also that the resource would benefit from tagging the references so a mouseover would show the bibliographical info in ID. Thx D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 Got Pritchard today from the library and indeed it's in there. It's from the Akkadian Creation Myth tablet 1. She set up the Viper, the Dragon, and the Sphinx, The Great-Lion, the Mad-Dog, and the Scorpian-Man, Mighty lion-daemons, the Dragon-Fly, the Centaur - Bearing weapons that spare not, fearless in battle. Fantastic ! I assume COS contains this work also but I don't have COS. Could anyone who has COS tell me; does it have this tablet and if so does it have the Akkadian as well as a translation ? I note that ANE doesn't have OL so I'm wondering if COS does ? Not that my Akkadian is up to snuff but .... In general does COS include OL of the texts along with translations ? Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Buck Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 She deployed serpents, dragons, and hairy hero-men, Lion monsters, lion men, scorpion men, Mighty demons, fish men, bull men, Bearing unsparing arms, fearing no battle. William W. Hallo and K. Lawson Younger Jr., eds., Canonical Compositions from the Biblical World, COS 1; Accordance electronic ed. (Leiden: Brill, 2003), 392. https://accordance.bible/link/read/Context_of_Scripture#14085 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.D. Riddle Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) No, COS does not include original languages of the texts, but it does include good bibliographies at the end of each text (or groups of texts) which list the current edition(s) of the text(s) so you can go find them. Very helpful. As for the question of whether texts in ANET appear in COS, see my post in this topic https://www.accordancebible.com/forums/topic/24221-ancient-near-eastern-texts/ It references ANET texts by page number, so even with a citation like "Ancient Near Eastern Texts, 62" you can find that this is "The Creation Epic" and that it is included in COS vol. 1. A.D. Edited August 24, 2018 by A.D. Riddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 Thanx for this A.D. I missed that COS had such an index. Very helpful. Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattChristianOT Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) I have heard that COS also axes a lot of content from tablets such as some of the epithet lists, which typically are not "important" to biblical scholars. They hold extreme importance to scholars that study the texts for their own intents and typically point to these lists as the main argument of the tablets themselves. By removing these lists, COS does not do itself justice IMO but if you don't want full citations and only what is important to your studies it should be fine. Not my cup of tea but still a valuable resource for biblical studies in some ways. Edited August 25, 2018 by MattChristian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 Thanx for that Matt. Good to know. Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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