TYA Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Great day all. Please advise the best way to accomplish this goal (see attached). Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Buck Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 TYA, First you do a search in your BHS/HMT for your first term, in this case, "כֹּֽפֶר", and then in your English text you run this command [CONTENTS Hebrew Bible (Biblia Hebraica) Tagged] <and> ransom What this does is use the verse list generated in tab one as the limiting range for the second search. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solly Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Graham, you explanation makes me recall how things were done in UNIX. Stream1 [operation] —> stream2 [operation] —> … —> output Most of what I worked with were text file streams, so how Accordance works just strongly resembles my UNIX days. Too bad grep doesn't work on compressed and tokenized files. ;-) Shalom, Joseph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Jenney Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 While not related to your exact goal, I suspect the reason you received that error message is that you had more than one tab named "Tab 1." Perhaps in another open Workspace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Buck Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Graham, you explanation makes me recall how things were done in UNIX. Stream1 [operation] —> stream2 [operation] —> … —> output Most of what I worked with were text file streams, so how Accordance works just strongly resembles my UNIX days. Too bad grep doesn't work on compressed and tokenized files. ;-) Shalom, Joseph For a little fun, you might like this little program written by a user: RegexForAccordance About as close to grep as you're going to get for Accordance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Brown Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Graham and Tim are right. Your specific error message is letting you know that you have two or more tabs named "Tab 1", so it can't find the specific one you desire. Is it possible you opened your workspace multiple times? Also, while this method works, there are possibly better ways to accomplish your search. For instance, since your JPS has strong's built in, you can simply do a search like this: [KEY H3724]@-ransom This will, entirely within the JPSS and with one tab, do the search for that Hebrew word כֹּפֶר when it was not translated into 'ransom'. Or, you could take Graham's approach and do the CONTENTS command mixed in with a search. While doing CONTENTS AND CONTENTS (or CONTENTS NOT CONTENTS) is the direct way to accomplish your goal of comparing verse lists, there are probably better ways to get to the actual result you are desiring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solly Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 For a little fun, you might like this little program written by a user: RegexForAccordance About as close to grep as you're going to get for Accordance. Thanks Graham, I am definitely going to have fun with this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYA Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) RegexForAccordance Would be nice to have for Windows. Graham and Tim are right. Your specific error message is letting you know that you have two or more tabs named "Tab 1", so it can't find the specific one you desire. Yep, that fixed it. This works great. And I figured out that changing <NOT> to <AND> let me get the results are in both lists. Wonderful. Thanks all! Now, I have a follow-up question regarding how to set this little "work station" up. See attached photo please. Edited September 20, 2018 by TYA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Would be nice to have for Windows. I think RegexForAccordance uses a Mac specific feature to extract the data, if I recall correctly. Personally I would like to see such a feature natively in the product on all platforms. Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Brown Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 To answer your question TYA, I would probably save a workspace, as you described, with just the three tabs Tab 1, Tab 2, and Comparison Tab, but with the searches in both Tab 1 and Tab 2 to be blank.. Then, I would simply open the workspace (no need to amplify! File -> Open Workspace, or from the Library, should be fine). Once open, I would go to my Tab 1 and type Shift-Control-C. This would not only insert the CONTENTS command for me, but give me a dialog to quickly pick the tab containing the verses I wish to consider as List 1. Similarly, I would then click to Tab 2 and type Shift-Control-C again, selecting the verse list I wish for List 2. Once I've linked my two lists, simply running the search should automatically update Comparison tab as you like. The advantage of this is A: The straightforward updating of Tabs 1 and 2 from any current situation source. B: It means I can then have anything else fancy in my Comparison tab, be it other linked tabs, other open parallels, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYA Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 Joel, I like this process. I'm getting the hang of it. Thank you. A follow-up question. One thing that would be nice to have is the statistics, or analytics of the results. In other words, "there are 300 verses that they have in common." Or, "there are 240 verses that are different." Is this number, circled in red (see attached), indicating any such thing, or no? Toma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Brown Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Yes, that’s exactly it. In your example there are 1475 verses unique to Tab 1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYA Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 Lovely. Thank you, Joel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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