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#1 Brian.Mann

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 03:22 PM

It would be nice to have a scripture link tool similar to Reftagger by Logos. I appears everyone is using the aforementioned plugin on Wordpress and other sites especially. However, I don't really want to point people to Logos, but to Accordance, the program I use. Thus, a plug in by Accordance that would pop up the Scripture reference and provide a link to Accordance inbound for users would be quite a help to both Accordance marketing as well as user pleasure. Please consider it. Take to heart. And act ! 

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 04:38 PM

You can always use Accordance location URLs, but if a reader doesn’t have Accordance, it won’t be of much use. 


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Posted 08 October 2018 - 04:45 PM

Yes, I am looking more for the hover and pop up feature that will bring up a verse without linking to logos. Logos has the mainstage on this service. Almost every website I see has use of it. Why not Accordance? I'd like to see Accordance produce something with their expert ability :-)


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Posted 08 October 2018 - 09:11 PM

The issue, Brian, is in hosting and licenses. The Logos RefTagger is a bit of javascript that queries their servers for the version and reference and returns the object wrapped in an html popup. You can see it here in all of its non-line-broken glory. It's no secret bit of obfuscated code, I just copied the link from their website (see attachment).

 

The task of writing a script like this is not really the issue, rather do we have the right to do so? As I'm not on the licensing side of the business I can't answer 100%, but my guess would be that, no, we do not. We have the right to sell sub-licenses to users for use in-app, but not to serve online. If we were to acquire such licenses we would then have to develop client facing api to service this avenue.

 

I'm not saying we'll never do it, in part because I'm not in a position to make any call on this otherwise, but there are a number of significant hoops to jump through before any implementation could take place. 

 

But thanks so much your desire to point more people to us!

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 09:23 PM

Graham, thank you for this response. I hope you all can do it one day; and that the powers that be look into it. These tools can make a huge difference in use, when every-time such a reference pops up and is attributed to Accordance. That would have to be a help and in no wise any hurt to Accordance; in fact, probably something for all to look into concerning permissions. Thanks again for your reply. I pray the powers that be will be willing to investigate and be blessed further :-)


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 10:13 AM

We could do so for any of the Bible in the public domain (e.g. KJV), but I think most people would prefer to specify a more modern translation. Graham is right on about the difficulty in using those.


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 10:22 AM

We could do so for any of the Bible in the public domain (e.g. KJV), but I think most people would prefer to specify a more modern translation. Graham is right on about the difficulty in using those.

If logos figured it out, I'm sure we can manage!


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 08:52 PM

Just a special thank you for making the webrowser now have instant links. It looks sharp. Great idea and it is a really a blessing to see. Better than even I hoped for in this post, though I think a javascript could still be developed for those to use without accordance. Nevertheless, the latest update is excellent!


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 11:32 PM

1+ on the above. The logos script works well and all, but I just think this would be a smart marketing move for Accordance.


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Posted 08 December 2018 - 09:19 PM

Check this out folks! Introducing the New ESV CrossReference Tool

I still think Accordance can make something that would do more than this, but its refreshing to me not to have to link to Logos bible.


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 11:17 PM

Timothy, I've seen Christianforums.com have their system - though seeming to be proprietary code (I didn't actually look at the code but I'm trying to recall some discussion about it), does bring up the ASV.

I'm certain that I'm suggesting for the New Testament the 1941 Confraternity Version - it is recently confirmed as being fully lapsed into the Public Doman (the NT). It is a VERY viable version, still in print, still bearing the traits of VERY strong and modern scholarship - see for example "New Covenant" in Hebrews (only viable version which has that, all others that can be considered as solidly trustworthy have "Covenant), I can't fathom the rigidity of other versions not using that since most versions are eclectic in a way anyway in the NT. It's two passages in Hebrews. The Confraternity Version OUGHT TO be developed for this. I love it, it's what I rely on the most right next to the NEB for which I have much more resources referencing it, for the NT! Also happen to use the OT:s but that's another story.
I would of course ask need to in the same go, like all others, see the OT. For that a different version has to be used however. How about the RV? There can't be much objection to it, it is amicable to use. OK so it's not technically "recent" in that it pre-dates the Dead Sea Scroll finds, mustn't it be recognised as distinctively the greatest and most revolutionising progress in the OT during the 19th century? I have it purposefully under all platforms there is, even though I've used a lot of other versions:

We could do so for any of the Bible in the public domain (e.g. KJV), but I think most people would prefer to specify a more modern translation. Graham is right on about the difficulty in using those.

EDIT: tiny typo


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