mattsarahryan1 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Hello, I have two questions. 1. I purchased the Understanding the Bible Commentary and was wondering why some of the books lack the beginning pages that usually include copyright and publishing information. 2. I was looking to purchase this book, but wanted to clarify that the most recent edition was published in 2000. When I look on Amazpon it says the publishing date was 2013, but accordance says 2000. I just dont want to purchase an old edition. https://www.accordancebible.com/store/details/?pid=NIGTC-1Corinthians&cart_action=add&cart_type=cart&cart_pid=NIGTC-1Corinthians#NIGTC-1Corinthians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwrobinson88 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 To answer 2 —The hardback was published in 2000 and the paperback in 2013. There is only one edition of the 1 Corinthians NIGTC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Francis Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) I cannot answer all your questions about the lack of pages in Understanding the Bible Commentary but it is a series that has had a very long and interesting history. It started it life under the name Good News Commentary with the base text being the Good news Bible then in the late 80s Hendricksen got the series and had all previous GNC volumes updated to NIV and changed the name to the New International Biblical Commentary. Then eventually they decided to do a complementary set to the NT, with the release in 1995 of the first of the OT volumes before the final NT volumes came out. I believe before the final couple volumes of the OT were released it got purchased by Baker and renamed Understanding the Bible Commentary. Still based on the NIV1984 it offers a very fine beginner to intermediary commentary series. I often like some of the volumes better than Tyndale. This is not the only series to undergo numerous name changes but this is one of the few series I know of to go through 3 different publishing houses. I own this series in Accordance but also in Olivetree because it has come up in the past on a super sale and I did grab it... UNDERSTANDING THE BIBLE COMMENTARY SERIES GENERAL EDITORS W. Ward Gasque Robert L. Hubbard Jr. Robert K. Johnston Philippians F. F. Bruce a division of Baker Publishing Group Grand Rapids, Michigan © 1983, 1989 by F. F. Bruce Published by Baker Books a division of Baker Publishing Group P.O. Box 6287, Grand Rapids, MI 49516-6287 www.bakerbooks.com Previously published jointly in 1995, in the United States by Hendrickson Publishers, and in the United Kingdom by the Paternoster Press. Baker Books edition published 2011 Ebook edition created 2011 All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means—for example, electronic, photocopy, recording—without the prior written permission of the publisher. The only exception is brief quotations in printed reviews. ISBN 978-1-4412-3657-9 Library of Congress Cataloging-in-Publication Data is on file at the Library of Congress, Washington, DC. Scripture quotations are from the Holy Bible, New International Version®. NIV®. Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by Biblica, Inc.™ Used by permission of Zondervan. All rights reserved worldwide. www.zondervan.com This front information is in my OT copy... and you do see in the information that its original publication was in 1983. You also noice on the back cover that Harper and Row were the original publisher of this series. -dan PS: I know I am being less than helpful but I am offering much useless trivia. Edited October 9, 2018 by Daniel Francis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Buck Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 In reply to question 1) We've gone through different, shall we say, philosophies of development over the years. We used to strip all the copyright materials out of the main text body as this information can be found in the 'About The Text' menu item as well as through 'Copy as->Citation'. However, many of our users asked us to keep the main text closer to the print copy so we changed out processes. The same is true for Table of Contents data. Though our programatic ToC wonderfully useful, users requested we keep the printed ToC's, so we now do (if included in the e-text we license). Now, as Dan has so wonderfully pointed out above, this series has a long and varied history. This would account for the difference between volumes in the series. I'm sure at some point we could potentially go back and normalize them all, but I wouldn't be waiting with bated breath for that… Hope that answer helps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsarahryan1 Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 I cannot answer all your questions about the lack of pages in Understanding the Bible Commentary but it is a series that has had a very long and interesting history. It started it life under the name Good News Commentary with the base text being the Good news Bible then in the late 80s Hendricksen got the series and had all previous GNC volumes updated to NIV and changed the name to the New International Biblical Commentary. Then eventually they decided to do a complementary set to the NT, with the release in 1995 of the first of the OT volumes before the final NT volumes came out. I believe before the final couple volumes of the OT were released it got purchased by Baker and renamed Understanding the Bible Commentary. Still based on the NIV1984 it offers a very fine beginner to intermediary commentary series. I often like some of the volumes better than Tyndale. This is not the only series to undergo numerous name changes but this is one of the few series I know of to go through 3 different publishing houses. I own this series in Accordance but also in Olivetree because it has come up in the past on a super sale and I did grab it... UNDERSTANDING THE BIBLE COMMENTARY SERIES GENERAL EDITORS W. Ward Gasque Robert L. Hubbard Jr. Robert K. Johnston Philippians F. F. Bruce a division of Baker Publishing Group Grand Rapids, Michigan © 1983, 1989 by F. F. Bruce Published by Baker Books a division of Baker Publishing Group P.O. Box 6287, Grand Rapids, MI 49516-6287 www.bakerbooks.com Previously published jointly in 1995, in the United States by Hendrickson Publishers, and in the United Kingdom by the Paternoster Press. Baker Books edition published 2011 Ebook edition created 2011 All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means—for example, electronic, photocopy, recording—without the prior written permission of the publisher. The only exception is brief quotations in printed reviews. ISBN 978-1-4412-3657-9 Library of Congress Cataloging-in-Publication Data is on file at the Library of Congress, Washington, DC. Scripture quotations are from the Holy Bible, New International Version®. NIV®. Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by Biblica, Inc.™ Used by permission of Zondervan. All rights reserved worldwide. www.zondervan.com This front information is in my OT copy... and you do see in the information that its original publication was in 1983. 519pVMDpHKL.jpg 51d2w7dgTEL.jpg You also noice on the back cover that Harper and Row were the original publisher of this series. -dan PS: I know I am being less than helpful but I am offering much useless trivia. This is tremendously helpful. One other question though is that when you look at the description (see below) there is an older date and a new date. Are there multiple updated editions of this commentary? Why are two dates next to each one? Genesis - John E. Hartley (2000/2012) Exodus - James K. Bruckner (2008/2012) Leviticus, Numbers - W. H. Bellinger Jr. (1995/2012) Deuteronomy - Christopher J. H. Wright (1994/2012) Joshua, Judges, Ruth - J. Gordon Harris, Cheryl A. Brown, Michael S. Moore (1995/2012) 1 & 2 Samuel - Mary J. Evans (1995/2012) 1 & 2 Kings - Iain W. Provan (1995/2012) 1 & 2 Chronicles - Louis C. Jonker (2013) Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther - Leslie C. Allen, Timothy S. Laniak (1995/2012) Job - Gerald H. Wilson (2007/2012) Psalms - Craig C. Broyles (1999/2012) Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs - Roland E. Murphy, Elizabeth Huwiler (1995/2012) Isaiah - John Goldingay (1995/2012) Jeremiah, Lamentations - Tremper Longman III (2008/2012) Ezekiel - Steven Tuell (2008/2012) Daniel - William B. Nelson (2013) Minor Prophets I - Elizabeth Achtemeier (1995/2012) (Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, and Micah) Minor Prophets II - John Goldingay, Pamela J. Scalise (2009/2012) (Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi) Matthew - Robert H. Mounce (1991/2011) Mark - Larry W. Hurtado (1989/2011) Luke - Craig A. Evans (1990/2011) John - J. Ramsey Michaels (1989/2011) Acts - David J. Williams (1990/2011) Romans - James R. Edwards (1992/2011) 1 Corinthians - Marion L. Soards (1999/2011) 2 Corinthians - James M. Scott (1998/2011) Galatians - L. Ann Jervis (1999/2011) Ephesians, Colossians, Philemon - Arthur G. Patzia (1990/2011) Philippians - F. F. Bruce (1989/2011) 1 & 2 Thessalonians - David J. Williams (1992/2011) 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus - Gordon D. Fee (1988/2011) Hebrews - Donald A. Hagner (1990/2011) James - Peter H. Davids (1989/2011) 1 & 2 Peter, Jude - Norman Hillyer (1992/2011) 1, 2 & 3 John - Thomas F. Johnson (1993/2011) Revelation - Robert W. Wall (1991/2011) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Bolesta Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 In reply to question 1) I'm sure at some point we could potentially go back and normalize them all, but I wouldn't be waiting with bated breath for that… How about with unabated breath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Buck Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 How about with unabated breath? I would most definitely recommend all our users continue breathing unabatedly. In fact, I would recommend all people, regardless of Accordance use, to do so as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Francis Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) The earlier dates are the original Hendrickson publication date the next is when it was processed over into its new name at Baker I believe ebook date but maybe just release date at Baker in general. To see original publication dates for GNC you have to look at the front matter to see the original date before it was adapted to the NIV. There was no changes to the commentary at all in the move to Baker beyond name change. -dan PS: You notice all NT volumes came over to Baker in 2011 and all previously published OT books came over in 2012, leaving the 2 unpublished OT books to be released by Baker alone. Edited October 11, 2018 by Daniel Francis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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