Brian K. Mitchell Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I would like to formally request the addition of the J.D. Price Accent Database for consideration. Title:The J.D. Price Accent Database Publisher: BibleWorks, LLC and James D. Price Reason(s): Because this database tags every accent/cantillation mark in the Hebrew Bible similar to the way other standard database of the Hebrew Bible tag morphology the addition of this database may make it possible for one to display accent/canitllation mark search results in the the Analysis of Search results. Grace and Peace, Brian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattChristianOT Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Any particular reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian K. Mitchell Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Greetings MattChristian, Any particular reason? First as partially stated above; Reason(s): Because this database tags every accent/cantillation mark in the Hebrew Bible similar to the way other standard database of the Hebrew Bible tag morphology the addition of this database may make it possible for one to display accent/canitllation mark search results in the the Analysis of Search results. J.D. Price database has accent tags/codes for both the prose and the poetic books as well as for each of the near and remote disjunctives Accordance might then be able to accomplish some of what was spoken of in these recent post: See: Link1 and Link2 Second I believe Accordance would be able to added more functionality without having to change or re-code the program. Also, I believe this database is still in the CCAT (ASCII format) and imagine or assume that it would be easy to add or covert to Accordance without the staff at Accordance using too many resources in time/money). Thrid The database was exclusively a BibleWorks product meaning that now that Bibleworks LCC is no longer in operation (or has closed it's doors) and BibleWorks software is no longer available for sale this database can no longer be acquired. Fourth: This database is useful for locating particular trope/cantillation patterns/combinations. One might want to do so if she/he is making a test, worksheet, or practice drills for learning to lein/chant the Pentateuch. Fifth: One may also be able to replicate some of that (or more) the Tanach Cantillation Concordance was cable of: identical roots with different vocalization and accentuation; identical vocalization patterns with different roots and accentuation; identical accentuation patterns with different roots and vocalization. see: http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/ach-allc.99/proceedings/hunyadi.html Accordance is already capable of accent searches and has been used to help produce works like Joshua R. Jacobson's "Chanting the Hebrew Bible" (965 pages) I personally would like to see Accordance to become even stronger in this niche field. Sixth For Interpretive Musical Analysis of the Torah/Tach See the following: http://www.jewish-music.huji.ac.il/content/eastern-ashkenazi-biblical-cantillation-interpretive-musical-analysis Regards, Brian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattChristianOT Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I see- Most of the time these things are selected by interest level. Maybe others would go for it but I believe there are relatively few that would push for this. While a valuable tool for all of your points listed above, I would hope that Accordance would first expand its primary texts base before working on the Mediaeval cantillation system. Maybe since it is already built and potentially is easy to integrate they may consider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian K. Mitchell Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 Maybe since it is already built and potentially is easy to integrate they may consider? Exactly, this is one the main reasons I thought of suggesting this database as a possible option after reading the recent thread entitled ,'include accents / cantillation marks in results' I believe there are relatively few that would push for this. Maybe? But, then again recently, I learned that, another major Bible Software company(link) released four new databases specifically on the cantillation of the Bible/טַעֲמֵי הַמִּקְרָא . So, I believe there must be some demand/interest in this type of product. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYA Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) Count me in with Brian's request, though I admit I'm not an Ashkenazi (but do borrow from that tradition on occasion); and as Matt alluded to, there are other resources I would rather have sooner. But then on the other hand (the Jew in me speaking), Brian's request was so eloquently stated, everything else should be put on hold. Edited November 4, 2018 by TYA 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattChristianOT Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Count me in with Brian's request, though I admit I'm not an Ashkenazi (but do borrow from that tradition on occasion); and as Matt alluded to, there are other resources I would rather have sooner. But then on the other hand (the Jew in me speaking), Brian's request was so eloquently stated, everything else should be put on hold. I agree Brian's request was well timed (little humor). I would ask that they at least pursue the license since BW is no longer around. Maybe they can get a deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Smith Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I'm in favor. It would also be another niche for Accordance to distinguish itself from its competitor(s). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattChristianOT Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I'm in favor. It would also be another niche for Accordance to distinguish itself from its competitor(s). A better niche would be Akkadian texts but I guess I am the only one interested (sigh) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Not the only one interested but my Akkadian will likely never be up to it if I'm honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Smith Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 A better niche would be Akkadian texts but I guess I am the only one interested (sigh) We've got Ugaritic. Akkadian seems like the logical next step. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattChristianOT Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 We've got Ugaritic. Akkadian seems like the logical next step. We have some Ugaritic- Some Akkadian texts would be great. Also Aramaic primary texts. I am sure the CAL database would be of some use there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian K. Mitchell Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 11/9/2018 at 7:43 AM, MattChristianOT said: the CAL database would be of some use there... Yes, the CAL database would be great to have in Accordance! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.D. Riddle Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 +1 James Price Hebrew Accents +1 Aramaic texts +1 Akkadian (though ORACC is already super useful for lots of texts) A.D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leopold Green Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 I would queue to get the J D Price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian K. Mitchell Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 Bump! It was back in November of 2018 that I first requested this (and it is now 2024), so maybe this request has gotten lost or forgotten I am requesting it once again: On 11/3/2018 at 7:54 AM, Brian K. Mitchell said: I would like to formally request the addition of the J.D. Price Accent Database for consideration. Title:The J.D. Price Accent Database Publisher: BibleWorks, LLC and James D. Price Reason(s): Because this database tags every accent/cantillation mark in the Hebrew Bible similar to the way other standard database of the Hebrew Bible tag morphology the addition of this database may make it possible for one to display accent/canitllation mark search results in the the Analysis of Search results. Grace and Peace, Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 We'll look into it. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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