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#1 Fabian

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:19 PM

Hello

 

In non unicode Texts I can write two words and Accordance searches for the two word in the verse.

E.g. Himmel Erde

 

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In unicode Bibles if I write two words it find it only the the words if they are together.  Otherwise I have to add the <AND> command. 

 

With no words together

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A text with the words together.

 

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I can handle it. I simply found the search difference.

 

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Edited by Fabian, 08 November 2018 - 05:23 PM.

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ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 02:10 AM

A text with the words together.

 

Just curious: "Himmel" and "Erde" are separated by a comma in your screenshot.  Does that count as "together" in Accordance, or is the comma actually separating them?

 

I appreciate you pointing out the "different search habits."  I think the underlying message in your statement--"I can handle it"--is that you would prefer to have one consistent, uniform way of doing things.  If that is so, I would like to echo my preference for one consistent, uniform way of searching (where possible).

 

And if I've totally stuffed words in your mouth that you never intended, then... I'd *still* like to voice my preference for one consistent, uniform way of searching :)


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 02:02 PM

Just curious: "Himmel" and "Erde" are separated by a comma in your screenshot.  Does that count as "together" in Accordance, or is the comma actually separating them?

 

I appreciate you pointing out the "different search habits."  I think the underlying message in your statement--"I can handle it"--is that you would prefer to have one consistent, uniform way of doing things.  If that is so, I would like to echo my preference for one consistent, uniform way of searching (where possible).

 

And if I've totally stuffed words in your mouth that you never intended, then... I'd *still* like to voice my preference for one consistent, uniform way of searching :)

In this case Accordance didn't recognize the comma.

 

Yes consistent is easier to handle for all. 

 

You nailed it exactly :)

 

If I'm correct the search habit without you have to add <AND> came with Accordance 10. But I mostly use MacOS Roman fonts. Since I have added some Qurans which are in unicode, because they have some transliterations in which has no equivalencies to MacOS Roman characters I realized there are different search habits.

 

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ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

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Posted 15 November 2018 - 02:00 PM

Maybe it will be listed on the fixes for 12.3.2:-)

 

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 03:13 PM

O.K. not. 12.3.3?

 

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 07:29 AM

Hello

 

In non unicode Texts I can write two words and Accordance searches for the two word in the verse.

 

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Fabian

 

I have the same problem with some Portuguese texts I've imported.

 

Searching also does not recognize hyphenated words. Instead of searching for "disse-lhe" (as I can in Accordance's official Portuguese module) I instead have to search for "disse <AND> lhe"

 

 

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 08:23 AM

I have the same problem with some Portuguese texts I've imported.

 

Searching also does not recognize hyphenated words. Instead of searching for "disse-lhe" (as I can in Accordance's official Portuguese module) I instead have to search for "disse <AND> lhe"

 

 

Thank you

Thanks for your support. 

 

There seems to be 2 things. 1 bug with the hyphenation, and one with the search habits. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For you, try this:

Open your Portuguese Text in BBEdit or CotEditor or similar software. There you can change from utf-8 to Mac OS Roman. Save it and import it again. If you open it in BBEdit and some of your characters are not supported in Mac OS Roman you'll get an error message. 

 

Greetings

 

Fabian


Greetings

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ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.




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