Donald Cobb Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I'm looking for similar occurrences to ἀπὸ τοῦ πονηρου in Matt. 6:13 (minus ἀπό). For a reason that remains inexplicable to me, the search below misses fully a dozen valid hits (Mt 5,39; 6,13; 13,49; Mc 7,23; Lk 6,35; Jn 7,7; Ac 19,12-13; Ep 5,16; Col 1,21; 2 Th 3,2; 2 Jn 1,11). Strangely, Matt 6:13 is not picked up, but the following, syntactically close, are: Mt 5:37 (ἐκ τοῦ πονηροῦ); 13:38 (οἱ υἱοὶ τοῦ πονηροῦ); Jn 17:15 ( ἐκ τοῦ πονηροῦ); 2Th 3,3 (ἀπὸ τοῦ πονηροῦ); 1Jn 3:12 (ἐκ τοῦ πονηροῦ). Can someone tell me what's wrong? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarcher Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) I could be mistaken but I believe it is because the articles in question are both masculine and neuter in form for the missing hits. Not 100% accurate. Hmm... Also, some of the missing hits you recorded are actually plurals, not singular. Edited December 10, 2018 by jarcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) Also, some of the hits you're indicating should be valid don't have a singular article (Matt. 13:49, Mark 7:23, Luke 6:35). Edited December 10, 2018 by Mark Allison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Cobb Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) Thanks guys, good catch. My mistake. Interestingly, with the article box marked for singular some of those passages I mentioned didn't get picked up, even though the article in the text was singular (see my examples). Most of these turn up when I remove that criterion. Is that a bug? However, even when the only criteria are that the article and the lexeme agree in gender, number and case, it still doesn't pick up Mt 5:39 and 6:13. I'm not getting it... Edited December 10, 2018 by Donald Cobb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarcher Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I also am not sure why Matt. 5:39 is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Two, thoughts. I cannot check them out right now though. Both these cases are double tagged as masc and neut in both the article and the adjective. I don't know if that is throwing it off. If you have other cases like that that are being correctly selected then this isn't the issue. I would try this query against another text. The sigla text has on occasion had issues where the sigla interfered with results. I would try the regular NA 28 Greek NT without sigla and see if it has the same behaviour. Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarcher Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Def. something wrong here. Reproducing the search in the normal search dialog doesn't seem to have the issue. Appears to be related to the construct search. Also tried NA27, Tyndale GNT. NA28 and NA28-Sigla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Yes, this is a bug. We're on it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Cobb Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 Thanks gentlemen for your help! DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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