Will it make a difference to You when looking for something to buy if a module of the type You need requires a specific software version for install?

[Unix]

Have You been holding out for that the features of more recent versions of Accordance desktop software get utilised on a resource-specific level?

 

For me, after today, other than what's already on my wish-list since before, I want to buy a resource IF it requires software version 11.1 specifically. It's the version I use the most on the go, laptop-use. (At home I use 12.3.) (Both my computers have W10 so I could install any desktop version.)
For the record, on my wish-list only remain these in the below attachment.

 

I saw an exegetical commentary set in the new releases requires version 12. But I'd like to see development of modules go from requiring merely version 10, to requiring 11.1, or if there's something particular that there's greatly enhances things: A newer version than that: The current or even newer. I'm supportive of Accordance. Just have looked through for what I need from what's been offered already:

[jarcher]

Given the extremely low cost to upgrade (relative to the competitors) I wouldn't make a sink at all if every resource required the latest version. They practically give the upgrades away. And.. I've never seen an upgrade that wasn't immediately worth it for me. Obviously your experience may be different.

[ukfraser]

For me, it has to run on ios, so havent bought the graphics package with timeline or atlas.

 

The biggest limiting factor for adding a resource is, do i have funds??????

 

I second above comment, upgrades are so reasonable that i have upgraded each time since i joined with 8 but certainly everything has worked on whatever ive been on (slight delay in getting 10 as wasnt sure if i would automatically get windows version if had mac version but ended up getting for mac and was pleased automatically got windows when released).

 

But i will always consider if i need to upgrade, and then if a resource is released which needs an upgrade...

 

But i suspect that for me, the underlying os may be the limiting factor and can see that a future release may not work on one of my os.

Edited December 19, 2018 by ukfraser

[Unix]

Upgrades are worth it to me, 11 wasn't but I requested this Autumn to be able to install the software even though I had not purchased a Collection under that specific version number and started to use it, as it uses a little less battery than 12 (that I had upgraded to a Year ago). I fully agree about the low cost but it would be worth it for me if it cost three times as much just for the software, it's just that the bundled books that come with Collections are not what I want. There are still books I'd need such as Original Language Bibles but I also have the print resources I use meanwhile (Tyndale House leather NT non-premium, and BHS 1983 Edition). I know I should get NA28 and HMT-W4 under Accordance but on a couple of occasions (I have asked twice for a good quote on Hebrew Pro Collection version 12) of which one yesterday I thought I WAS getting them under Accordance but there were circumstances I could not have done anything about such as that tonight a seller of used modules could not sell his version 9 Collection which contained them even though he had signed that already since he wanted to keep using them and thought the small Collection was worth more (which it isn't, only contained TWOT (in addition to the latest OL Bibles), which I had said clearly has no value to me) so wouldn't let me have it even though I had said from start before he discovered he had the Collection, that I specifically needed those. So still limping on with BHS-T (which is good just that Syntax requires the later Edition) and Textus Recept NT. The seller in reality needs to sell EVERYTHING he has but I can't afford and some (many) things I want to get straight from Accordance (because of the reason I mention at the end of my OP which is the most important aspect always). Getting Waltke's Beginner's Hebrew Syntax grammar monograph right now, used.

By my poll question, I mean that if You vote any of the available options here You WON'T buy a resource AT ALL if it merely requires version 10.4 (or even lower). I'm not saying You shouldn't buy everything and as much as possible, but I'm trying to focus on the request that there's a need to abandon development for version 10.4 now! Was that what You agreed about then? True, some books may not be as complicated as to require anything of the version 11-12 enhancements but I do feel also at the same time that everything that is more advanced is preferred to simple books! OK so sometimes an advanced level resource can be beyond my grasp at least partially, but not overkill. I will pay even around a thousand $ for one module if it really is state of the art. Money is not the object. But getting everything that is released would also cost me as much as one state of the art module and that is what I don't want.

I agree also with You jarcher that ideally that everything should already be developed to require a version 12 or 13 software installation, just that it may as of yet be unreasonable to completely abandon version 11 (not because 12 wouldn't be be better, it really is, just that a few customers may still not have upgraded beyond 11):

Given the extremely low cost to upgrade (relative to the competitors) I wouldn't make a sink at all if every resource required the latest version. They practically give the upgrades away. And.. I've never seen an upgrade that wasn't immediately worth it for me. Obviously your experience may be different.

[Michael Hunt]

My library has grown to a size that while there are resources I would like to add, there are few resources I desperately need. (Like Fraser my limitation for adding items is more about the availability of funds than anything else).

Therefore:

 

a. the version requirement for a module isn't a big deal for me since I am always running the latest version on my desktop.

b. I have not so far held off upgrading because the cost was prohibitive. In fact, I have happily parted with money for an upgrade because of new features plus the opportunity it affords me to support further development work for

c. the free mobile app versions (which is about the only place I consider the version requirements of a module to be important)

 

Like Fraser, I think c. is where the rubber hits the road at the moment. For example, see the recent discussion on the forums about Easy Install and the current behaviour of showing only items by purchase date. In one sense this is not an issue for me as I tend to install my whole library on the desktop. But in another sense, it is as I will be more selective on mobile platforms. Longterm I really would like to see more parity in feature set between the mobile and desktop versions. Thus, feature set and module compatibility might become for me more of an issue in the future if the parity gap increases.

Edited December 19, 2018 by Michael Hunt

[jarcher]

What difference do you perceive exists within the module if it only requires version 10 vs. 11?

[Rick Bennett]

I'm a little confused here. The minimum version of Accordance we set for modules is based on specific features of the app which that specific module requires. We set it as low as possible so that the widest number of users can purchase it. However, just because a module's minimum version is set to 9.6 does not mean that it is any less worthy of purchasing. 

[jarcher]

I'm a little confused here. The minimum version of Accordance we set for modules is based on specific features of the app which that specific module requires. We set it as low as possible so that the widest number of users can purchase it. However, just because a module's minimum version is set to 9.6 does not mean that it is any less worthy of purchasing. 

 

Exactly what I was getting at in my post above.

Edited December 19, 2018 by jarcher

[JonathanHuber]

No, it doesn't matter to me if a resource requires the latest version in order to enable a few feature. Or if it doesn't.

 

Accordance has revolutionized my ability to study the Bible so it's worth it to me to support the company and keep the software up to date.

Edited December 19, 2018 by JonathanHuber

[A.D. Riddle]

I always liked that the Accordance platform/browser is independent (so to speak) from the modules. This was one of many ways where I felt Accordance always treated its customers right and fair.

 

An acquaintance of mine purchased a module from a certain competitor, and found out she could not use it unless she also upgraded the level of platform/browser (which was not free). This just seemed like a money-grabbing scam.

 

A.D.

[Michael Hunt]

I always liked that the Accordance platform/browser is independent (so to speak) from the modules. This was one of many ways where I felt Accordance always treated its customers right and fair.

 

An acquaintance of mine purchased a module from a certain competitor, and found out she could not use it unless she also upgraded the level of platform/browser (which was not free). This just seemed like a money-grabbing scam.

 

A.D.

Same here. Makes it very easy to explain Accordance's collections as purchasing a library of resources. Once you have purchased that library you don't loose any features if you choose to upgrade to only the starter collection.

[Unix]

ALL of You have excellent feedback and comments and opinions, strategies on all of this, all relevant too! Thank You and I must commend You for what all of You wrote.
All of You are right and perhaps setting me straight now. Altogether I have used wast amounts of time to look for what I'd need or want. During 2013-2017 I bought most everything I expanded my interests to, after that I've tried to go for numerous but kind of more narrow areas of interest and get everything I had since long before wanted to get or intentionally planned to find, meaning I at last bought what I had seen in bibliographies.
I don't mean by any of this that I would have already exhausted all or even most of what I wanted to buy, just that I'm a very strategy oriented kind of guy, both in this, as well as in the completely different (but related since I want to give well curated books to such a girl) area of a(ny) future couple-relationship.

jarcher, that is an excellent question I hoped someone would pose. I'm not entirely sure, versification systems? I have a bit of a hard time remembering since version 11 is the version I've still historically speaking used the least although I did indeed attend a webinar about it (which was really the only time I then bought something significant with a store-wide coupon-code):

What difference do you perceive exists within the module if it only requires version 10 vs. 11?

 

 

 

Two small typos edited below
If this thread is going to go off-topic, there is at least this group, new - that I've started myself and invite everyone here to join regardless if You had anything to say or vote on Accordance software. It's about commentaries and I apologise for linking to it but it's a brand new group and I don't know of many avenues where to put this. (Btw for a long time commentaries required version 10.4, I bought lots - one - AYBC originally required 10.4 and now requires 11.1 after a certain point - I have used the set for all this time it has been out): https://www.facebook.com/groups/2290154717874594/

Edited December 19, 2018 by Unix

[Michael Hunt]

EDITED Thus, mobile feature set and module compatibility might become for me more of an issue in the future especially if the parity gap remains the same or were to increase.

I just want to say that I see, and it has been continually communicated that near parity is the long term goal. I appreciate every effort that Accordance puts into making this happen.

[ukfraser]

I just want to say that I see, and it has been continually communicated that near parity is the long term goal. I appreciate every effort that Accordance puts into making this happen.

In a different thread, they are working on an upgrade and im hoping for a major improvement in the semi skinned interface just making it easier and more consistent to use. But i appreciate accordance has a small team supporting products on four very different operating systems which are all moving to their own agendas.

[Unix]

Notice that this is intentionally in Module Requests! Read about the voting on this before You cast Yours! The features of the desktop software exists anyway regardless, it is therefore about which modules are developed and what software version they require! Vote only if You want more than minimum requirements for new modules that are developed (or at the rare occasion that an existing one is so thoroughly reworked that it really does require a higher version number after the modifications) to be higher than currently as there is no voting option for (but You may express so in comments) for requirements to stay normal!

I gave it some thought since I created this thread, while until now buying LOTS OF modules not on my Wishlist, as well as emptying most of my above Wishlist by acquiring under Accordance, all of those that require version 10.4. (Yet to buy the Classic NICOT/NICNT commentary volumes that I don't have in the same venue; btw the set I got as OT and NT separately so that the Testaments can be upgraded independently - like I've done with AYBC too.)
So now I'm letting my vote stay at requiring version 11.1 in module development for what level modules will require! It's a good point that Rick Bennett made on Dec. 19. 2018, I've taken that into consideration.
(In what I'm citing below I was referring also to other platforms regarding the Years.) There's lots more I want - at this point I'm wanting to see what is going to be developed henceforth, or remade. 

As for further reasons - it is not directly because of what version I'm currently using, even though I am currently on 11.2.5 (on the laptop, because of battery concerns) (having also the 12.x license of course), but I just need modules that are advanced enough. I know the software hasn't been expensive to me, but it is rather about module prices - I'm willing to pay for more expensive modules too, especially by European publishers (please create Your new threads with wishes!), as well as paying for software and databases (speaking of which, see: https://www.accordancebible.com/forums/topic/24197-for-a-really-major-ver-release-which-i-welcome-next-year-intra-testamental-sourcing-of-the-ot-incl-deuterocanonicals-of-parallels-of-theologies/):

ALL of You have excellent feedback and comments and opinions, strategies on all of this, all relevant too! Thank You and I must commend You for what all of You wrote.
All of You are right and perhaps setting me straight now. Altogether I have used wast amounts of time to look for what I'd need or want. During 2013-2017 I bought most everything I expanded my interests to, after that I've tried to go for numerous but kind of more narrow areas of interest and get everything I had since long before wanted to get or intentionally planned to find, meaning I at last bought what I had seen in bibliographies.
I don't mean by any of this that I would have already exhausted all or even most of what I wanted to buy, just that I'm a very strategy oriented kind of guy, both in this, as well as in the completely different (but related since I want to give well curated books to such a girl) area of a(ny) future couple-relationship.

Edited March 6, 2019 by Unix

[Jesse Dornfeld]

No, it doesn't matter to me if a resource requires the latest version in order to enable a few feature. Or if it doesn't.

 

Accordance has revolutionized my ability to study the Bible so it's worth it to me to support the company and keep the software up to date.

 

This.

[Unix]

This comment misses the point. It doesn't matter what all of us on this thread have - it matters what development on MODULES is made!:

No, it doesn't matter to me if a resource requires the latest version in order to enable a few feature. Or if it doesn't.

 

[...] it's worth it to me to support the company and keep the software up to date.

 

[Unix]

One is aparently support for original language display within the Table of Contents, as per: https://www.accordancebible.com/store/details/?pid=Jouon-Muraoka+Hebrew :

What difference do you perceive exists within the module if it only requires version 10 vs. 11?