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Posted 21 February 2019 - 11:38 AM

Take a walk down memory lane! We're celebrating the Accordance 25th Anniversary with 25 significant Accordance events from the last quarter century. Where were you when...?
 
See today's blog post for more info.
 
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:15 PM

Was the construct search originally a Gramcord feature?


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 01:00 PM

No. Accordance pioneered using a graphical interface for constructing a search. I'm not super familiar with how GRAMCORD for DOS worked, but I believe you basically had to learn a kind of programming/database query language to be able to search the GRAMCORD Greek NT. At the time, I remember hearing a professor joke that if you were smart enough to use it you were smart enough not to need it.

 

The Construct window basically grew out of our application of a Mac GUI to the GRAMCORD concepts.


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 01:03 PM

No. Accordance pioneered using a graphical interface for constructing a search. I'm not super familiar with how GRAMCORD for DOS worked, but I believe you basically had to learn a kind of programming/database query language to be able to search the GRAMCORD Greek NT. At the time, I remember hearing a professor joke that if you were smart enough to use it you were smart enough not to need it.

 

The Construct window basically grew out of our application of a Mac GUI to the GRAMCORD concepts.

 

LOL, that is funny what that pastor said. I am definitely no genius, but I find the ease of use of Accordance to be quite stellar.


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 01:23 PM

I believe you basically had to learn a kind of programming/database query language to be able to search the GRAMCORD Greek NT.

 

Hi David,

 

Not in the early 90s. It was all drop down menus by then, much like in the Construct Search now, for lemma, parsing info, etc., in successive tabs, depending on what you were searching for. I used GRAMCORD until 2013. I think of the Construct Search as a (better, fabulous) GUI that took G's place, which also allows me to use the Syntax databases easily.

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 01:35 PM

Michel, are you describing GRAMCORD for DOS or GRAMCORD for Windows? The Windows program came a couple years after Accordance 1.0, and I do remember it using a large dialog with drop-down menus. My memory of the DOS version is extremely fuzzy, so I'm certainly open to correction.


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 01:36 PM

When was the construct search added? I remember using Accordance at a seminary's computer lab in about 1997, and I used the dropdown menus to construct my searches. The last time I used GramCord was about 2006, and it seems like it was very similar to my earlier Accordance experience. To me, that interface was intuitive enough that I was able to figure out what I wanted on my own without a manual or helps.

 

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 01:39 PM

The Construct was there in version 1.0, but of course, so was the Enter Tags dialog you're referring to. That's good for 90% of what most of us search for. It's when you need to define agreement and other word relationships that the Construct becomes necessary.


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 02:21 PM

Michel, are you describing GRAMCORD for DOS or GRAMCORD for Windows? The Windows program came a couple years after Accordance 1.0, and I do remember it using a large dialog with drop-down menus. My memory of the DOS version is extremely fuzzy, so I'm certainly open to correction.

 

Hi again,

I don't remember the exact dates. I tried to find a history of GRAMCORD online, no luck so far. But, I did find a 1993 review of it at https://biblicalstud...tj/09-1_065.pdf. It says, "Gramcord installation requires a basic knowledge of DOS," and later, under weaknesses, "It is unavailable in a Windows version."

This accords with my recollections, that I was using the drop down menus in DOS. I also resisted using Windows 3, and only started using Windows 95 in the late 90s, when I finally saw the value of running a second program. I guess I spent most of my time in Multi-Lingual Scholar, then GRAMCORD, then G, . . . In any case, GRAMCORD would have been the same program, whether you typed cd \  >  cd GRAMCORD >  gramcord.exe to open it, or later used the W3 or W95 GUI.

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Edit: review of it


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 03:24 PM

Here's an obscure bit of early Accordance trivia I was reminded of in looking at Rick's blog post. The CD case artwork under items 3 and 5 in the list were designed by Loyd Boldman, a graphic artist who had formerly been one of the lead singers of an 80's Christian rock band called Prodigal. Loyd was an insanely talented guy.


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 04:29 PM

Here's an obscure bit of early Accordance trivia I was reminded of in looking at Rick's blog post. The CD case artwork under items 3 and 5 in the list were designed by Loyd Boldman, a graphic artist who had formerly been one of the lead singers of an 80's Christian rock band called Prodigal. Loyd was an insanely talented guy.

 

Don't want to get too far off topic, but that guy reminds me a lot of Ryan Clark from Demon Hunter.


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 05:17 PM

Don't want to get too far off topic, but that guy reminds me a lot of Ryan Clark from Demon Hunter.

Good ol Demon Hunter- Haven't heard of them in a LOOONG time


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 05:29 PM

Good ol Demon Hunter- Haven't heard of them in a LOOONG time

 

They have a double album coming out on March 1.

 

That's probably as far off topic as we should get I think.


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 09:37 PM

Hi again,

I don't remember the exact dates. I tried to find a history of GRAMCORD online, no luck so far. But, I did find a 1993 review of it at https://biblicalstud...tj/09-1_065.pdf. It says, "Gramcord installation requires a basic knowledge of DOS," and later, under weaknesses, "It is unavailable in a Windows version."

This accords with my recollections, that I was using the drop down menus in DOS. I also resisted using Windows 3, and only started using Windows 95 in the late 90s, when I finally saw the value of running a second program. I guess I spent most of my time in Multi-Lingual Scholar, then GRAMCORD, then G, . . . In any case, GRAMCORD would have been the same program, whether you typed cd \  >  cd GRAMCORD >  gramcord.exe to open it, or later used the W3 or W95 GUI.

Regards,

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Edit: review of it

 

An update, fwiw

 

I've been thinking about this on and off all day. What I do remember is that there was an interface in the DOS version with dialogue boxes, which developed into the Windows interface or template. Once you pressed Search, you would get a list of hits that you could print or send to a word processor. Since Windows 3 and 95 were just GUIs over a DOS layer, many of us continued to use the CMD prompt, which to us was just another DOS prompt, to open G. The drop down menus that I mentioned were probably from the Windows version. It happened so fast, and the menus/selections were so similar, that I probably just blurred the distinction.

 

Anyways, Accordance's GUI is much better. I wish the Windows version had come out much earlier.

 

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 11:08 PM

My top 25 list would look different.

 

Most of all, it would definitely include:

Aug 2005, Accordance adds basic raw appleevent api's. In other words, the framework for intruducing the Widget (and other scripting interaction).


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 11:43 PM

Great stuff in there. Thanks again for all the great work!

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 08:34 AM

I didn't come to Accordance until 2011, but in my time here I'd have to say the October 2014 release of the Info Pane has been the most significant for me. It's hard to imagine using Accordance without it!  

 

Thank you for making Accordance incredibly powerful and enjoyable to use!


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Posted 22 February 2019 - 08:59 AM

I’ve been a user for a little over 5 years, and I would say the 5 most significant things for me were: the Windows version, the Construct Search GUI to replace GRAMCORD, the Syntax Databases to replace the one in Logos, Live Click to mimic BibleWorks, and this Forum, which helped me with Accordance and my migration away from Windows to Mac.

 

The things mentioned by others are probably just as great, but I don’t know how to use them yet. But, I think Accordance has changed the way we all do Bible study.

 

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 10:39 AM

My top 25 list would look different.

 

Most of all, it would definitely include:

Aug 2005, Accordance adds basic raw appleevent api's. In other words, the framework for intruducing the Widget (and other scripting interaction).

 

That's a good one, too. My initial list went beyond 25 events, but it had to be 25 right? It will be much easier on Accordance's 100th anniversary!

 

I have a great graphic of the original widget. I'm thinking of writing an "honorable mentions" post sometime in the future. I can include your "August 2005" entry :-)

 

Accordancewidget.png?dl=1


If others want to suggest other honorable mentions, I'll consider including them in the follow-up post, too.


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Posted 22 February 2019 - 12:33 PM

I have a great graphic of the original widget. 

That's much better than this original widget.

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