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#1 Gordon

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Posted 29 December 2019 - 09:39 AM

How can I search for two "zakef gadol" cantillation marks that appear one after the other?

 

For example  וְהָי֕וּ לַעֲבֹ֕ד (Nu. 7:5)

 

 


‏ כִּ֤י לֶ֣קַח ט֭וֹב נָתַ֣תִּי לָכֶ֑ם תּֽ֝וֹרָתִ֗י אַֽל־תַּעֲזֹֽבוּ׃


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Posted 29 December 2019 - 01:15 PM

This is most easily done using a construct:

 

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Posted 29 December 2019 - 01:57 PM

Joel,

From  where do I get the "zakef gadol" cantillation mark??

How do I enter the "zakef gadol" cantillation in the construct that you created?   


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Posted 30 December 2019 - 08:25 AM

I would use the Window menu -> Character Palette.  You can see the characters (and click on them to insert them), and if a keyboard shortcut is available to enter the character, it will be listed there as well for future faster use.


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Posted 30 December 2019 - 09:10 AM

The Character Palette (over the icon and over the search menu) is not available on Mac, for use it there and also not for the Research which I requested before to add this.


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Posted 30 December 2019 - 01:19 PM

Hi Joel,

I changed the "Within" from 1 to 2 and got many more results!  28 results!


Edited by Gordon, 30 December 2019 - 01:31 PM.

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Posted 14 April 2020 - 09:10 AM

I am also trying to do a search for a cantillation mark (merkha kephula). But when the "Enter single character search" box is open, the menu items are greyed out, so I cannot bring up the character pallette. And even for those cantillation marks (of which this is not one) that have keyboard shortcuts listed---e.g., for simple merkha, alt-0182---I cannot figure out how to enter them in in character search box. I'd appreciate help.



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Posted 14 April 2020 - 12:12 PM

I gave this a try and noticed that some of the marks do not display after they are chosen. The following example looks for two "revia."

 

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While nothing is displayed in the "char" field (BUG?), the search does return the correct results

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However, I cannot find any way to search multiple instances of a mark (like a "revia") in the same word, for example in Deut. 29:28 we have the following example:

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Is there a way to search for occurrences like these?



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Posted 14 April 2020 - 12:19 PM

Harvey:

 

It can be tricky to pull up the character palette within the dialog.  I recommend you just leave it blank, hitting OK, and then using the character palette to enter the character into its box in the construct.

 

Mike:

 

The dialog says you can use leading spaces to see overstrike characters, which helps solve the rendering issue you describe.  Unfortunately, I don't know of any way to specify that the mark occurs twice within a single word, sorry.


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Posted 14 April 2020 - 12:29 PM

Harvey:

 

It can be tricky to pull up the character palette within the dialog.  I recommend you just leave it blank, hitting OK, and then using the character palette to enter the character into its box in the construct.

 

Mike:

 

The dialog says you can use leading spaces to see overstrike characters, which helps solve the rendering issue you describe.  Unfortunately, I don't know of any way to specify that the mark occurs twice within a single word, sorry.

 

Note: I had not noticed the dialog text because you cannot pull up the character map while the dialog box is open i.e. I had already closed the dialog box when entering the characters. 

It would be very nice to have Accordance permit searches for character sequences within a word (both for the vowels and the cancellation marks). 

 



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Posted 14 April 2020 - 01:01 PM

Thank you. And with your suggestion I was able to get the mercha kephulah character in the search box and complete my search.






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