Andrew Chapman Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Hi, very basic task, which I can't work out to do. I want to search for επιστρεφω in GNT-Textus Receptus with Strong's Numbers. Rather than learning a new keyboard, I am typing with the normal Mac Greek keyboard. The accents aren't working right, but the letters are OK. So I type επιστρεφω in the Search box. According to the Easy Search tutorial, it looks like I have the option to do a 'Flex' search, but I am only offered 'Words' or 'Verses'. OK now I am trying with the Mac English keyboard and it's coming out in Greek, almost the same as mine except w for omega rather than v. I type in επιστρεφω and click return. Up comes a long list of words, not including επιστρεφω, presumably because it doesn't appear in the New Testament. If I select one of these, say, ἐπιστρέψαι, I just get the results for that form. So how do I search for the lemma using the search box, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Brown Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 To search for a lemma, you need to be searching in a lemmatized text. The GNT-TR with Strong's is one of our only (if not the only) Greek text that has strong's number tagging instead of grammatical tags. To to grammatically tagged searches you need a text like the NA28 or grammatically tagged GNT-TR. Of course, you may already own these texts, or they may make more sense as part of a bundle or collection. Since the GNT-TR with Strong's is not lemmatized, you can only search for the written (inflected) form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Chapman Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 Thanks, Joel, glad there was an explanation! I am now curious as to why Live-Click is able to bring up all the inflected forms in 'Word Usage'. If I choose any of the results in 'Word Usage', then Open in GNT-TRS it gives me what I want, that is the full results for the lemma. I have tied it to TNT2 in a parallel pane, so can see the results in Tregelles too. It's a bit roundabout and discovered rather by accident, so I thought I would try to do it what I thought would be the simpler way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Brown Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 If you look at the top of the Word Usage, is it a search for the inflected form, or a KEY search? The key numbers are all tagged to a specific lemma, so you can approximate a lemma search by searching for the key number. You can even search for the transliterated lemma with [KEY agapao], for instance. However, you can't actually search for the lemma in greek directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Chapman Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 It's a KEY search, as is of course what comes up in the other workspace when I open it up - I hadn't quite appreciated that it's actually the same thing. (I am not sure yet whether there is any actual difference between a zone that says 'Research' in the top left corner, and one that says 'Texts'. I found myself with commentaries open in a zone called 'Hebrew Texts' and it didn't seem to matter so far as I could see.) The Live Clive Type settings are: Greek and Hebrew: Lexeme Key Numbers: Key Number which I think was the default. So thanks, I can do this by typing KEY in the search box, and the Strongs Number which comes up in the info pane. When you say 'approximates', what's the difference? I would have guessed that Strong gave one number to each lemma. Or is it that his lemmas don't necessarily correspond exactly to more modern numbering systems? I only have a Hebrew package but can see the two numbering systems there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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