lslapides Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I have been using Accordance for comparative work between the Hebrew Bible and the Greek OT. I will use the MT-LXX module or just place the MT text, LXX, NETS and ESV side by side in parallel. I was studying Amos 9:11-12 in the Hebrew and Greek. Then I wanted to include the NT quote of Amos 9 in Acts 15:16-18. I tried opening NA28 Greek NT from the library to put it in a separate zone and then link the NT text to the other versions. Accordance kept putting the NT Greek text as a separate tab not a separate zone. if I make the NT a parallel text, it will not work since the MT and LXX are OT texts and though the NT quotes the OT, it is still a NT text. I wanted to put the three original language text side by side, but I am having a challenging time doing it. Since the NA28 is tagged, I thought there may be some cross tagging between the texts as I have with the MT and the LXX. Any suggestions how to set up this workspace? Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Do you have the LXX-GNT module? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I guess I am not quite following why something like this (which it sounds like you have already tried) is not sufficient : Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lslapides Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 I was not aware of a LXX-GNT module. That would help a lot. I guess beggars can’t be choosers but I would love to have a MT-LXX-NT module for studying OT citations that appear in the NT. I’ll have to go look for the LXX-GNT module. Thanks. Louis Lapides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lslapides Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 I see this as a possibility but it does not appear the texts are tagged. https://www.accordancebible.com/store/details/?pid=LXX-GNT“The Greek Bible is a combination of two early critical texts of the LXX and the Greek New Testament, Swete’s LXX and Westcott/Hort’s New Testament in the Original Greek, combined into one continuously searchable “Greek Bible” module. The apparatus for Swete is not included.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lslapides Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 I guess I am not quite following why something like this (which it sounds like you have already tried) is not sufficient : sc.jpg Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lslapides Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 It’s difficult because I want to include the NT citation of an OT text. Acts 15:16-18 quotes Amos 9:11-12. The NT confirms mostly to the LXXbut the LXX does not reproduce an exact reproduction of the Hebrew. There are a few explainable variations. But I would like all three original language texts to scroll together and include cross tagging across all three texts. I hope this explanation helps. Louis It’s difficult because I want to include the NT citation of an OT text. Acts 15:16-18 quotes Amos 9:11-12. The NT confirms mostly to the LXXbut the LXX does not reproduce an exact reproduction of the Hebrew. There are a few explainable variations. But I would like all three original language texts to scroll together and include cross tagging across all three texts. I hope this explanation helps. Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanHuber Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Don’t forget about the Parallels modules. There’s one for OT quotations in the NT. You can set it to display both the HMT and LXX for the OT and then you’d have all three texts scrolling in parallel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lslapides Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 Don’t forget about the Parallels modules. There’s one for OT quotations in the NT. You can set it to display both the HMT and LXX for the OT and then you’d have all three texts scrolling in parallel. Jonathan, thanks for your reply. Can you tell me the exact name of the parallel for the ability to scroll all three original language texts together? I assume since the NT is not an OT text even though it includes OT citations, the three won’t scroll in unison? Remember the OT citations within the NT are still part if the NT and the NT does not scroll with the OT, I could be wrong. I certainly hope so. Louis Lapides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanHuber Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) The Parallels modules are included in every Accordance installation, so you should already have them. These databases are specially coded to align the content rather than verse references, so yes they'll scroll in parallel. In your particular case, the passage isn't very long and you can see the whole thing anyway, but obviously some parallel passages are much longer. These databases may not do everything you'd like, but they're really neat and sometimes just the perfect tool. Plus you already have them. Edited September 19, 2020 by JonathanHuber 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lslapides Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Jonathan Huber: great suggestion. This may be the answer I am looking for. I will give it a try. Thanks for the helpful screenshots. Louis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lslapides Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 The Parallels modules are included in every Accordance installation, so you should already have them. These databases are specially coded to align the content rather than verse references, so yes they'll scroll in parallel. In your particular case, the passage isn't very long and you can see the whole thing anyway, but obviously some parallel passages are much longer. These databases may not do everything you'd like, but they're really neat and sometimes just the perfect tool. Plus you already have them. Screen Shot 2020-09-19 at 5.34.24 PM.png Screen Shot 2020-09-19 at 5.35.50 PM.png Great suggestion. I followed your suggestion. Especially helpful were the two screenshots. Though there is no cross tagging using the Parallels, still the ability to show the HB, LXX, ESV and the NA28 together is great. The instant details feature works as well but the words will not highlight when I hover over them. Minor problem for sure but should be addressed. I think there is room for great improvement with this feature, but it is a whole lot better than having these text in book form laid out on my kitchen table! Thanks again for the tip. Louis Lapides 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) The LXX-GNT is tagged. I agree this information is missing in the description. I would start with the ESV and then add the HB, LXX and NA28 as parallel. Save this as workspace. If you want to search in another Bible than the ESV just change the search text here ==> If you don't search in the original languages (OL) then you can also put the NA28 to the LXX. It's called Combine Texts. Edited September 20, 2020 by Fabian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lslapides Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 The LXX-GNT is tagged. I agree this information is missing in the description. I would start with the ESV and then add the HB, LXX and NA28 as parallel. Save this as workspace. Bildschirmfoto 2020-09-20 um 08.55.12.png If you want to search in another Bible than the ESV just change the search text here ==> Bildschirmfoto 2020-09-20 um 08.39.20.png If you don't search in the original languages (OL) then you can also put the NA28 to the LXX. It's called Combine Texts. Bildschirmfoto 2020-09-20 um 08.46.03.png Thanks for this information. I do not own the LXX-GNT but it appears to be a module that would be very helpful in my studies dealing with the New Testament’s quotation of OT texts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Hi Louis, One other thing you may find of interest is the [iNFER ?] search command. You can use this to find similar wordings used in the LXX and NT. Thx D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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