simple construct search question
Posted 25 November 2010 - 10:24 AM
When I do a simple construct search in ESV, and the criteria are to search lord, god and lov* within 1-4 words searching in both directions, I get 147 hits. Some of these verses will include the word "steadfast" - e.g. 2 Chr. 7:6, Ps 25:6.
But when I explicitly add INTER looking for "steadfast" on top of this same search, it returns 20 hits, but none of the hits returned actually contains the word "steadfast." This does not seem to be the expected result. What am I doing wrong here? I've pasted the screen capture of my search.
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Posted 25 November 2010 - 10:52 AM
But, try just putting 'steadfast' in a column in between lord and lov*. I get 19 hits in the ESVS and they seem to all be correct. Here's a screenshot:
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Note: I just noticed the screenshot says 'Love' not 'lov*', but the results are the same.
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Posted 26 November 2010 - 06:19 AM
This brings us to the whole point of why I think Ken built the search this way (please correct me if I am wrong). He, like me, wanted to avoid having to build 2 different construct windows and then running an OR search (i.e., [LINK Simple Construct] <OR> [LINK Simple Construct 2] - See attached screenshots). In this particular case, BTW, there seems to be a problem with the highlighting, since "steadfast" is not highlighted (thus adding to the confusion).
In my opinion, INTER should be used for those words that may or may not appear ANYWHERE within the specified proximity range between the words displayed in the columns connected by it. In the current implementation of the Construct window this does not seem to be possible. I miss very badly the ability to set a proximity item (i.e., WITHIN) between the INTER and the columns, as well as an agreement item (i.e., AGREE) between the INTER and the columns for morphological searches. This would (hopefully) simplify things, make them more intuitive and add more flexibility and power to the Construct window.
Edited by Ruben Gomez, 26 November 2010 - 06:21 AM.
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