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[jsnyder]

Two questions please

 

1. When I do a word search in the BHS, for example, can I toggle a setting somewhere to make only the results/hits appear? My ultimate objective is to see the different ways a particular Hebrew word is inflected (with suffixes) and vocalized. I want to print out the results and the rest of the verse is unnecessary.

 

2. Is there a way to set the Analysis Display to include suffixes on searched Hebrew words? It seems that pronominal suffixes are not considered part of a Hebrew word's inflected form (that is to say, even when I customize the display to show "Inflection" the list of words searched are displayed in the "Analysis" are without the suffixes).

 

Regards

[Anon]

Two questions please

 

1. When I do a word search in the BHS, for example, can I toggle a setting somewhere to make only the results/hits appear? My ultimate objective is to see the different ways a particular Hebrew word is inflected (with suffixes) and vocalized. I want to print out the results and the rest of the verse is unnecessary.

 

2. Is there a way to set the Analysis Display to include suffixes on searched Hebrew words? It seems that pronominal suffixes are not considered part of a Hebrew word's inflected form (that is to say, even when I customize the display to show "Inflection" the list of words searched are displayed in the "Analysis" are without the suffixes).

 

Regards

 

 

Re: question 1:

 

I am not entirely sure, but I don't think so. In fact, your second question is related to your first, in that you can create a list of the inflected forms via the Analysis Display. Here is how you do it:

1. Run a search for מלך. Your BHS-W4 will populate with the results.

2. Click on the Bar Graph Icon for your Analysis Display.

3. Select ⌘T to set the display settings.

4. Change the first column to INFLECT. By Default, it will have LEX. You will need to delete LEX from the column.

 

 

Your display analysis will then show all the inflected forms of the word. You can export this list in RTF format for further editing purposes, et cetera.

The pronominal suffixes will not appear, for we haven't searched for them. In Accordance, they are considered an additional word.

 

Does this help?

 

 

[Rick Bennett]

Two questions please

 

1. When I do a word search in the BHS, for example, can I toggle a setting somewhere to make only the results/hits appear? My ultimate objective is to see the different ways a particular Hebrew word is inflected (with suffixes) and vocalized. I want to print out the results and the rest of the verse is unnecessary.

 

2. Is there a way to set the Analysis Display to include suffixes on searched Hebrew words? It seems that pronominal suffixes are not considered part of a Hebrew word's inflected form (that is to say, even when I customize the display to show "Inflection" the list of words searched are displayed in the "Analysis" are without the suffixes).

 

Regards

 

You could also try the parsing feature. Run the search, select all text, hit parsing icon in resource palette, then cmd-T and choose hit words only. You can tweak others options here as well. Though, again, prefixes and suffixes are not parsed as a part of the same word.

[Ruben Gomez]

Two questions please

 

1. When I do a word search in the BHS, for example, can I toggle a setting somewhere to make only the results/hits appear? My ultimate objective is to see the different ways a particular Hebrew word is inflected (with suffixes) and vocalized. I want to print out the results and the rest of the verse is unnecessary.

 

What you could do is use the Concordance option to analyze the results. You can set the context size to one word before and after the search hit and get the following:

 

 

Hope this helps.

[jsnyder]

Thanks so much for the reply. I have already tried your suggestion (I tried again to be sure). The results it gives in the Analysis display are still without the suffixes. The inflected forms it provides are only the different construct vocalizations of the noun with no suffix. For example, if I search מֶלֶךְ, as you suggested, I get all the result in the search window but the Analysis only gives the different construct forms (no pronominal suffixes attached). What I need instead, for example, would be all the different form of מֶלֶךְ (with prepositions, articles, suffixes). I can get these results in the search window but the entire verse is also given (which I don't need -- a lot of wasted ink). The Analysis window gives me just the hits but does not provide all the inflections I am looking for.

 

I hope I make sense here.

 

Can this be done?

[jsnyder]

Thank you. This is close. I just need to figure out how to get a list with suffixes attached.

[jsnyder]

Per your suggestion, how can I set the "context" to one word before and after? I did not see this in the Concordance display preferences.

[Anon]

To see what pronominal suffixes occur with the noun מלך, you can run a construct search for the noun with a suffix, as such:

 

1. Open a Hebrew Construct Window.

2. Drag LEX, and specify whatever noun you prefer. In this example, I've used מלך.

3. Drag suffix in the adjacent column (going RTL).

4. Then drag the Within above the columns, and delimit to one (see screen shot).

5. Then, run the search.

 

Open your Analysis Display, and remove LEX from the columns. Replace with INFLECT. You will get something like the following:

 

 

The Analysis doesn't show a pragmatic occurrence, but lists the various pronominal suffixes. Morphologically, the manner in which a suffix is attached to a substantive is rather straight forward, and is normally covered in most Hebrew Grammars.

 

As for the settings for the Concordance, open your Concordance and press ⌘T. Then set the value to 1 word before and after.

[Ruben Gomez]

Per your suggestion, how can I set the "context" to one word before and after? I did not see this in the Concordance display preferences.

 

Sorry about that. I now realized I was assuming a certain advanced knowledge of the program.

 

1. Do your search in the Search window.

2. Click on the Graph icon located between the Context slider and the Compare checkbox.

3. In the Details window that opens, click on the + sign on the upper right-hand corner and choose Concordance in the drop-down menu.

4. With your cursor anywhere in the Context pane, press Command-T on your keyboard.

5. In the Concordance Display sheet, under Display, set the Context size menu to 1 word.

 

Let me know if you have any problems.

[jsnyder]

Thank you again for a suggestion. I will use your idea for a different task. For now, I will just need to make make do. Regards.

[jsnyder]

Please forgive my lack of "know-how". I am still unsure about the steps you mentioned in your last response. Here is the window I see when I follow your steps. I don't see what you called "Context size menu". What am I overlooking?

 

[Ruben Gomez]

Please forgive my lack of "know-how". I am still unsure about the steps you mentioned in your last response. Here is the window I see when I follow your steps. I don't see what you called "Context size menu". What am I overlooking?

 

 

My bad. I was using a localized version and forgot the original wording. Under Appearance, you want to set Excerpt size to 1. That should do it.

[jsnyder]

Thank you for this info and your time. This helps.