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#21 מִיכָאֵל

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:17 AM

As I'm somewhat reluctant to take NO for an answer, I have tried HTML entities for the left and right angled brackets as well.  They will actually allow me to import the text, but the entity is displayed as text and not parsed into it's HTML equivalent.  Maybe if the import routine in the Accordance Bible import code was modified so that instead of just looking for the angle brackets, it would look for allowable display modifiers encased in the angled brackets.  This way, we could use angle brackets in User Bibles.  Someone ought to suggest that.

 

Perhaps when Accordance allows the integration of PDF files we can take another look at the prospect of having the Emphasized Bible incorporated.



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Posted 19 October 2015 - 12:49 PM

Hello 

 

I have derived derived from http://sourceforge.n...herham Version/the Bible but now I have \sf15 in the text and I didn't know for what this is. Notes to the text?

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 01:21 PM

Hello Fabian,

 

My first guess is that might be some remnant left over from the XML formatting from that file you got from sourceforge.net.  That file looks to be the raw XML that the Crosswire Bible Society is using to generate their Rotherham's Emphasized Bible module.

 

This module includes none of the Emphasis formatting or any of the copious notes that are included in the print version.

 

It looks like you could fire up BBEdit and run a series of find and replaces and then save it as a plain text file and have the raw text of The Emphasized Bible in Accordance rather/somewhat easily.  But that would be minus a lot of the meat.

 

If the angled brackets were allowable in User Bibles and we could strive to make a fair reproduction of the work for Accordance, I'd be more apt to get fired up about it.

 

Cheers,

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 01:41 PM

From the Crosswire Modul:

 

Module name: Rotherham

 

Description: The Emphasised Bible by J. B. Rotherham

 

Type: Biblical Texts

 

Language: en

 

Version: 1.7

 

Versification: KJV

 

About: 

The Bible text designated Rotherham is from The Emphasised Bible by J.B.  Rotherham, originally published by Samuel Bagster and Sons in 1902. The electronic text is by Larry Nelson, Box 2083, Rialto, CA 92376.

 Comparisons made against printed edition at the Internet Archive: http://www.archive.o...ant, 1828-1910"

 

Maybe we have to knock on the door (P.O. Box) of Larry Nelson? But in this case you are definitely nearer.

 

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Greetings

 

Fabian

 

ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

 

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 02:33 PM

If I remember right, Larry is in Rialto or Colton.  That's closer to me than to you, indeed.

 

I do not believe that he has the notes though.  If he did, I'm sure that they'd show up in my BibleTime installation that uses this Crosswire module.  There used to be an e-Sword module available, back in the last century or so.

 

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 04:54 PM

See here: https://www.dropbox....FPWd1SC1Va?dl=0

 

 

This is a file I made. But the verses are not correct (they do not synchronize with the ESV for 1 or 2 verses), perhaps someone can correct this and repost the corrected text.

 

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:57 PM

See here: https://www.dropbox....FPWd1SC1Va?dl=0

 

 

This is a file I made. But the verses are not correct (they do not synchronize with the ESV for 1 or 2 verses), perhaps someone can correct this and repost the corrected text.

 

Hans

Hello Hans,

 

I just now downloaded a copy of your work and it looks to be very nice in BBEdit.  I'd like to pull this into Accordance and see how it looks compared to the KJV as well.  Adding a User Notes file to accompany this that would incorporate Rotherham's notes would get a lot of good information out to people.  The emphasis marking in the text would also need to be added in, but this is a very good foundation.

 

Sometimes I wonder if some Accordance user made modules could be built as a team effort, with the work divided amongst the team so that it actually gets done.  I tried this in about 1998 with The Companion Bible by Bullinger and we did not get all that far very quickly, but then again the Internet was still pretty new and people were still on BBS systems and GEnie type dial up services.  We were in constant kludge mode.  I still have some of the pages that we did and the html/css actually looks like a printed page in The Companion Bible if you hold it sideways and look at it out of the corner of your eye.

 

I'm getting too pooped out today to do much with this, but I will certainly have a go with it tomorrow... my last day of vacation.   :(

 

Thank you for your work on this.  It is appreciated, as is the work that Fabian did.

 

Cheers,

Michael



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 09:06 AM

See here: https://www.dropbox....FPWd1SC1Va?dl=0

 

 

This is a file I made. But the verses are not correct (they do not synchronize with the ESV for 1 or 2 verses), perhaps someone can correct this and repost the corrected text.

 

Hans

Hello Hans,

 

Where specifically does your text not align with the ESV?  I just pulled it into Accordance and I'm loving it.



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 02:29 PM

Well, seeing that i actually need this resource, I went ahead and created a new account at Logos and purchased it.  Man, getting a new account fixed many of the issues with Logos that I was dealing with before.  The account on the old email address was sending ghost data for resources that I had transferred to a study colleague quite some time ago.  Much, much better now.

 

That being said, I still would like to see this work in Accordance. 


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 02:55 PM

Hello Hans,

 

Where specifically does your text not align with the ESV?  I just pulled it into Accordance and I'm loving it.

 

See for example Ex 1.1

 

If anyone can fix this, it would be great and we have this resource in Accordance.


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 09:37 PM

See for example Ex 1.1

 

If anyone can fix this, it would be great and we have this resource in Accordance.

Perhaps if you change all of the Exo book references to Ex. it may work.  I am unable to test currently, as this text file has somehow burrowed it's way into my Accordance and I'm having to resort to the terminal to extract it.



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 09:59 PM

There might also be an issue with the LF going from the end of Genesis over to the beginning of Exodus.

Pro tip: posting on iPhone is more difficult than I thought it might be. :-)

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 09:51 AM

Hi, Guys!

 

You may want to pause for just a bit. I understand Accordance 11.1 may offer some improvements in importing Bibles.


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 05:44 PM

Hi, Guys!

 

You may want to pause for just a bit. I understand Accordance 11.1 may offer some improvements in importing Bibles.

Copy that.  Thanks for the heads up!   :)



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Posted 23 October 2015 - 12:42 PM

Hello

 

I have seen a few versions of the REB and the best one is from the zefania.net. This is also not flawless but better than any other. 

 

Edit: I have seen now the zefania.net use the text from the crosswire.org. 

 

I prefer again that Michael stay in contact with Larry Nelson for his first version of the electronic REB. I have found out, that if too many has adapted the Bibles for a Bible App and another takes this and adapt it for another, that then comes a devolution and not an evolution to the text.

 

In the time between now and 11.1 is released. So we can start with a solid ground to adapt it for Accordance.

 

Greetings 

 

Fabian


Edited by Fabian, 23 October 2015 - 12:54 PM.

Greetings

 

Fabian

 

ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

 

Mac Air (13-inch, Mid 2013)

1,3 GHz Intel Core i5

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Next time: I'll buy only one with SuperRetina OLED, and hopefully without a glossy screen. A faster CPU, SSD and more RAM.

 

macOS High Sierra 10.13.3

Accordance 12.2.4 and waiting on 13 (on iPad Pro with 3D touch)

 

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Posted 23 October 2015 - 08:34 PM

Hopefully, importing a User Bible into Accordance will not again result in me having to resort to going on a shoot and kill expedition in a terminal window on OS X.   :)  Those rm -r excursions can go sideways if you're tired and not paying attention.

 

Fabian,  I have not yet taken any step in reaching out to Larry Nelson.  Just an FYI.






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