Reviews by Timothy Luoma
November 7, 2014  | 10:49 AM   |    Fantastic (5)
@Rev Leal

I don't work for Accordance, but I felt compelled to respond.

Paying $50 to get the newest version of Accordance is reasonable upgrade cost. Assuming that 12 months of work went into this upgrade, it's less than $1 per week. It would only be fair for the developers to get paid for their work as well.

Yes, new Accordance customers are getting the app plus some modules for free, but that is intended to help them get started using Accordance, which they couldn't do without some modules.

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@Rev Leal

I don't work for Accordance, but I felt compelled to respond.

Paying $50 to get the newest version of Accordance is reasonable upgrade cost. Assuming that 12 months of work went into this upgrade, it's less than $1 per week. It would only be fair for the developers to get paid for their work as well.

Yes, new Accordance customers are getting the app plus some modules for free, but that is intended to help them get started using Accordance, which they couldn't do without some modules.

If you don't want to upgrade to 11, your version 10 software will continue to work just fine.

As far as moving to Logos, I can speak to that since I have used both programs for the past several years.

Logos just released their version 6, and from what I can see from their website, it looks like it will cost me about $125 to upgrade to the lowest available "cross-grade". I can wait until Feb 2015 for the "Logos core engine" to be upgraded for free, however, basically none of the reasons for upgrading to Logos 6 would be included in that.

Don't take my word for it, see what's described here: http://abramkj.com/2014/11/03/get-logos-6-making-some-sense-of-the-upgrade-process/

So, Logos is making their customers wait to get a free upgrade which will be largely worthless unless they pay $125 to get _nothing new_ as far as *content* is concerned, just to be able to use their current content with the new features of Logos 6.

(ISTM that in any sane world this would be considered charging people $125 to upgrade, but you'll see plenty of Logos folks saying "It's free!" My point is that if you think you're going to save money by switching to Logos, you'll end up disappointed.)

Also, Logos' performance is not great. It wasn't great in version 4, it wasn't great in version 5, and I'm guessing it won't be great in version 6. It has always felt like the slowest app on my Mac, even on a MacBook Pro with an SSD and 8GB of RAM.

Not only that, but every time a module is updated in Logos, it has to reindex your Logos Library, which can take several hours and thrash your CPU.

In the days when many iOS and Mac apps sell for a few bucks, a $50 upgrade might seem like a lot. But writing and maintaining software is not free, and licensing materials from publishers is expensive. How does the saying go? "He knows the _cost_ of everything but the _value_ of nothing?" If Accordance 11 doesn't seem like it is worth the cost, then sticking with Accordance 10 is a reasonable decision. Personally, I expect to get far more than $50 worth of value out of Accordance 11 in the next year or so.
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October 13, 2014  |  4:56 PM   |    Good (4)
There seem to be 3 complaints:

Q1. Will I lose anything that I have already paid for?

Q2. Will I have to to pay for things I have already paid for?

Q3. Why is the upgrade process so confusing?

Let’s address these in order:

A1) “…all previously purchased modules and Collections will still be available in the new version.” I take this to mean that you will not lose anything, no matter what upgrade you do, even if you just get the basic upgrade to 11 Starter.

A2) The new custom upgrades seem to b ...
There seem to be 3 complaints:

Q1. Will I lose anything that I have already paid for?

Q2. Will I have to to pay for things I have already paid for?

Q3. Why is the upgrade process so confusing?

Let’s address these in order:

A1) “…all previously purchased modules and Collections will still be available in the new version.” I take this to mean that you will not lose anything, no matter what upgrade you do, even if you just get the basic upgrade to 11 Starter.

A2) The new custom upgrades seem to be specifically designed to make sure that you do _not_ pay for things more than once. When you click the “Custom Upgrade” button (where available) it gives you a customized quote based on what you have already paid for.

A3) It’s complicated because Accordance offers a lot of things, and (I think) the things that they _can_ offer might change over time as different contracts expire, etc. (That does NOT mean that you won’t be able to use something that you purchased, it ONLY means that if you want to buy something and their contract to sell it expires, you might not be able to buy it until they get a new contract. Thänk the publishing companies for that.

If all else fails, you can always call them directly and have someone who works at Accordance answer your questions. I’ve done that before and it was very helpful. See http://www.accordancebible.com/Contact-Us

(Disclaimer: I don’t work for Accordance, I’m just a user.)
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October 13, 2014  |  4:44 PM   |    Good (4)
"This commentary can be bought on amazon for 24$ hardcopy so its original price at 35 is too high. I wish that accordance prices would be much more competitive.”

You’re not comparing apples to apples. I wish that I could get all of the money I spent on “dead tree” books back so I could spend it in Accordance instead. Why? Because my dead tree books aren’t indexed and searchable, I can’t have them anywhere I have my laptop and/or iPhone/iPad.

Accordance’s price is not only to pay the original ...
"This commentary can be bought on amazon for 24$ hardcopy so its original price at 35 is too high. I wish that accordance prices would be much more competitive.”

You’re not comparing apples to apples. I wish that I could get all of the money I spent on “dead tree” books back so I could spend it in Accordance instead. Why? Because my dead tree books aren’t indexed and searchable, I can’t have them anywhere I have my laptop and/or iPhone/iPad.

Accordance’s price is not only to pay the original author for their work, but also to pay for the work that went in to making the Accordance version. Doing that takes a lot of time -- I haven’t done Accordance’s exact process, but I’ve done conversions of documents into ePub, etc. It takes a lot longer than you’d expect. It’s not as if they can press an “Export in Accordance Format” button.
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