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#1 A.D. Riddle

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 06:38 AM

The greatest benefit of using Accordance to me is HALOT and BDAG. Having dictionaries digitized, indexed, and hyperlinked is a huge time-saver. For that reason, I would love to see more ancient language dictionaries, even if you do not have the texts (yet) to which they could hyperlink.

For Ugaritic, I would like to have
G. del Olmo Lete and J. Sanmartín.
2003 A Dictionary of the Ugaritic Language in the Alphabetic Tradition. 2 vols. Leiden: Brill.

This could eventually be hyperlinked with the texts in the Ugaritic Data Bank.

For Northwest Semitic, I would like to have
J. Hoftijzer and K. Jongeling.
1995 Dictionary of the North-West Semitic Inscriptions. 2 vols. Leiden: Brill.

Again, this could eventually be hyperlinked to Hebrew and Northwest Semitic Inscriptions.


Finally, I would like to have
Jeremy Black, Andrew George, and Nicholas Postgate.
2000 A Concise Dictionary of Akkadian. 2nd corrected printing. Wiesbaden: Harrassowitz.

and/or

The Assyrian Dictionary of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago (CAD).

I know requests for Akkadian resources are probably a stretch, since (so far as I know) Accordance does not have Akkadian texts, nor does it have plans to include them. But having a digitized dictionary or dictionary set is much easier to use and to carry around, and would quite helpful on its own.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 07:25 AM

I admit these would be very cool. Are there any others who would purchase and use such tools?

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 08:18 AM

I admit these would be very cool. Are there any others who would purchase and use such tools?


I'd love to have these, though it would probably be a few years before this poor student would be in the market for them. Of course, they would probably take a while to develop for Accordance...

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 09:28 AM

I admit these would be very cool. Are there any others who would purchase and use such tools?


Absolutely. But for the Ugaritic text/lexicon, it presupposes a morph-tagged text, correct? Anyone up for this? :D
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:49 AM

I've asked for all of these at one point or another over the last ten years. Tropper's Kleine Wörterbuch might be good to have, too.

There's also the issue of how transliterated cuneiform could be searched more intelligently if/when we could get Akkadian texts.

In all seriousness, I'd tag KTU3 with basic info if/when it appears (AOAT 360) and we can license it.
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:57 AM

I'd love to have these, though it would probably be a few years before this poor student would be in the market for them.


I second this comment.

I wonder if it would be possible to get some Akkadian texts into Accordance... I'm thinking particularly of the SAA series which is already basically tagged and on-line: http://oracc.museum.....edu/saa/corpus
I don't know what the licensing issues would be, but it would be pretty awesome to have it all in Accordance.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 04:49 PM

I've asked for all of these at one point or another over the last ten years. Tropper's Kleine Wörterbuch might be good to have, too.

There's also the issue of how transliterated cuneiform could be searched more intelligently if/when we could get Akkadian texts.

In all seriousness, I'd tag KTU3 with basic info if/when it appears (AOAT 360) and we can license it.


It's unclear when KTU3 will appear. And even then, there will be texts still coming out for years after. Who knows when we get close to a complete edition of texts from Ugarit?

That, then, raises the question: if someone is willing to start morph tagging, then why not now with UDB (which Accordance already has)? And if someone started morph tagging, I'd following with syntax tagging (as long as you didn't start with the mythological texts.)
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 07:38 AM

The folks at Chicago have done us a great service in releasing free PDF versions of the CAD. These are reasonably searchable as e-texts, but tagging them in a more DB-friendly form would almost certainly be cost-prohibitive.

I also have a PDF of the CDA (Black, et al) but I am not sure entirely sure if it is legal. That text would probably make the most sense as an Akkadian lexicon to be included in Accordance.

Finally, why is Aramaic always the red-headed stepchild of Biblical Studies? We have Aramaic texts already, what I would really like are Sokoloff's JBA and JPA.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 10:56 AM

... CDA (Black, et al)... That text would probably make the most sense as an Akkadian lexicon to be included in Accordance.

Finally, why is Aramaic always the red-headed stepchild of Biblical Studies? We have Aramaic texts already, what I would really like are Sokoloff's JBA and JPA.


Agreed.

I would also add Sokoloff's recent revision of Brokelman's Syriac lexicon... particularly for it to be tied with the Peshitta modules.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 01:09 PM

The folks at Chicago have done us a great service in releasing free PDF versions of the CAD. These are reasonably searchable as e-texts, but tagging them in a more DB-friendly form would almost certainly be cost-prohibitive.

I also have a PDF of the CDA (Black, et al) but I am not sure entirely sure if it is legal. That text would probably make the most sense as an Akkadian lexicon to be included in Accordance.

Finally, why is Aramaic always the red-headed stepchild of Biblical Studies? We have Aramaic texts already, what I would really like are Sokoloff's JBA and JPA.


Now, now, Pete, calm down. ;-) Aramaic inscriptions are covered by DNSWI.

Certainly, Sokoloff's lexica would be nice, but if I remember correctly, he told me that the older of the two does not have an electronic version (even in-house) and so that would be a major task.
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 02:15 PM

I admit these would be very cool. Are there any others who would purchase and use such tools?


Yes! Absolutely.

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 09:44 AM

So, are these dictionaries going to be available? 


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Posted 25 February 2015 - 04:08 AM

We have met with Prof. Sokoloff and looked at his work. It would be extremely challenging to convert it for Accordance because of the complexity of the works. We also tend to think that Jastrow would have broader appeal, but there is no etext. It's not that we ignore Aramaic, it's just really difficult to find resources that will be worthwhile to invest in and make available.


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Posted Yesterday, 08:59 PM

We have met with Prof. Sokoloff and looked at his work. It would be extremely challenging to convert it for Accordance because of the complexity of the works. We also tend to think that Jastrow would have broader appeal, but there is no etext. It's not that we ignore Aramaic, it's just really difficult to find resources that will be worthwhile to invest in and make available.

 

. . . in the meantime, http://www.tyndalear...//TABS/Jastrow/


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